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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 05:04
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I really wasn't kidding about Roger Ailes. Do people here know who he is? He has done some serious f**king damage to America over the years.


Yeah but that doesn't seem to be what Rob is going for.
I'd agree with that and other people's comments, I sincerely believe many internal, non military people have done more damage to our country than anyone else.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 05:08

I noticed Rob seemed to be trying to steer the forum towards a particular answer and got frustrated when he wasn't given it, but screw that. We're just answering the question how we feel. Ailes is some bad news. This isn't a joke about Fox News either, look into the guy as deeply as you can, he is f**king poison. He's hard to learn about though, he's deliberately mysterious and cultivates a false image.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 05:22
Well people are frustrating. It is a tough question, especially for the US where we'd not had issues of invasion and etc

Nixon is a lamesauce answer, but I do believe Cheney should be on the list.
As you said, not a joke about Bush or the GOP...I think he was a frightening human being. What he may have done to the country is bad, (we all seem to have forgotten about that secret force squad or w/e it was that answered directly to him) but what he probably wanted if he could've had his way.....*shivers*

Yeah I couldn't find much about Ailes, the fact he heads that misinformation network is bad enough.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 05:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 05:28
Man Biden is a useless VP. Cheney may be evil but at least he occasionally achieved something.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 05:32
Yeah it's a 180 for sure, Biden does nothing and Cheney was more or less the PresidentLOL

I may have to rescind my comment, Dick and Rumy both came from the Nixon days, as did that f**k Karl Rove. I know all politicians need a certain mindset but it is unnerving how all these super paranoid, iron fisted guys came from Nixon :O
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 06:47
Being from Israel, I'm working on a list, i think i'll be done sometimes next week. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:41
Baron Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim (Swedish pronunciation: [ˈkɑːrl ˈɡɵsˌtɑf ˈeːmil ˈmanːərˌheim]) (4 June 1867 – 27 January 1951) was the military leader of the Whites in the Finnish Civil War, Commander-in-Chief of Finland's Defence Forces during World War II, Marshal of Finland, and a Finnish statesman.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:44
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Probably some president. I'm not sure which one.
 
 
You may, at least partially, agree with my list from the page before.


I do.

It's something internal for sure.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 16:13
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I noticed Rob seemed to be trying to steer the forum towards a particular answer and got frustrated when he wasn't given it, but screw that. We're just answering the question how we feel.



By all means, do so- just do it in the Political or Libertarian threads please. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 16:16
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Baron Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim (Swedish pronunciation: [ˈkɑːrl ˈɡɵsˌtɑf ˈeːmil ˈmanːərˌheim]) (4 June 1867 – 27 January 1951) was the military leader of the Whites in the Finnish Civil War, Commander-in-Chief of Finland's Defence Forces during World War II, Marshal of Finland, and a Finnish statesman.



LOL

Mannerheim? Finland's greatest hero? You might as well insult Kekkonen to top it off, and get deported!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 16:20
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Baron Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim (Swedish pronunciation: [ˈkɑːrl ˈɡɵsˌtɑf ˈeːmil ˈmanːərˌheim]) (4 June 1867 – 27 January 1951) was the military leader of the Whites in the Finnish Civil War, Commander-in-Chief of Finland's Defence Forces during World War II, Marshal of Finland, and a Finnish statesman.



LOL

Mannerheim? Finland's greatest hero? You might as well insult Kekkonen to top it off, and get deported!
He wouldn't be a hero if his evil capitalist army hadn't won the civil war. Cry

Kekkonen was cool k
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 16:32
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Baron Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim (Swedish pronunciation: [ˈkɑːrl ˈɡɵsˌtɑf ˈeːmil ˈmanːərˌheim]) (4 June 1867 – 27 January 1951) was the military leader of the Whites in the Finnish Civil War, Commander-in-Chief of Finland's Defence Forces during World War II, Marshal of Finland, and a Finnish statesman.



LOL

Mannerheim? Finland's greatest hero? You might as well insult Kekkonen to top it off, and get deported!
He wouldn't be a hero if his evil capitalist army hadn't won the civil war. Cry

Kekkonen was cool k


Ah that's right...you're a dirty commie.

Of course Kekkonen was cool k, he was in bed with the KGB
It all makes sense now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 02:15
This all depends on what you consider a country. In question of a land area with set borders, I believe anyone sharing a border with Russia/Soviet Union has/had to be on their toes all the time. This has nothing to do with the Russian individuals. All of them that I know are top people, friendly and caring.

When thinking about the biggest enemy to our national safety... Well, in the recent years it used to be George W. Bush and his ilk who made Europe into a less safe place. Oh how Europeans hated him!

At the moment my country's biggest enemy comes from within, and that's the populist right wing political undertow so strong in Europe nowadays, taking us back to the national socialist ideas of the 30's.

More philosophically speaking, our biggest foe is the general decline of values, ignorance of cultural values, sophistication, history, fine arts etc.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 02:40

My country's greatest foe?

Since I'm from Croatia, I guess many will think it's some other South-Slavic Balkan country, perhaps Serbia or Bosnia?
Actually, we had quite a lot (still do) shared history of cultural, artistic and national-uprising exchange in the past couple of hundred years. But I won't deny there were/are quarrels (even occasional wars). Our tensions are our rivalry.


Historically, greatest foe would be Hungary. We were under Hungarian rule in way or another for almost thousand years. Frankly, I'm wondering why my language and culture aren't much more Hungarian-influenced.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 04:09
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:


My country's greatest foe?

Since I'm from Croatia, I guess many will think it's some other South-Slavic Balkan country, perhaps Serbia or Bosnia?
Actually, we had quite a lot (still do) shared history of cultural, artistic and national-uprising exchange in the past couple of hundred years. But I won't deny there were/are quarrels (even occasional wars). Our tensions are our rivalry.


Historically, greatest foe would be Hungary. We were under Hungarian rule in way or another for almost thousand years. Frankly, I'm wondering why my language and culture aren't much more Hungarian-influenced.




It may not be so surprising: after all, from the Middle Age to the 19th century, big kingdoms/empires never really tried to repress "regional" or minority linguages.
In France, it wasn't until the late 19th century that the Republic decides to make school free, lay and mandatory - with lessons only told in French. So, even in Britanny, Alsatia, French Flanders... the linguage remained "unfrenchized".

Rivalry, rivalry... One of my friends is croatian (born in Bosnia) and she seems to be ready to seize a gun when only referencing the very word "Serbia". Confused


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 04:12
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

William the Conquerer


Ah now that's a good one!
Yeah that seems like, historically and in terms of the grand scale, a better answer than George Washington.
I was thinking the same thing - Washington is admired in the UK as "a good guy" hence the reason why I suspect he topped the poll, the American War of Independance was something that happened "over there" and was not an attack on British soil as such. The Normans were the last people to sucessfully invade Britian and eventhough their rule only lasted about 100 years, their legacy lasted much longer in our culture and language.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 04:28
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

The Normans were the last people to sucessfully invade Britian and eventhough their rule only lasted about 100 years, their legacy lasted much longer in our culture and language.

And still does today... Just think of all the town names especially on the eastern parts of your island: Grimsby, Whitby, Boston, Sunderland, Inverness, Skegness, Scalby, York (former Jurvik), Helmsdale, Musselburgh etc., that's ancient Scandinavian all over the place.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 04:34
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:


My country's greatest foe?

Since I'm from Croatia, I guess many will think it's some other South-Slavic Balkan country, perhaps Serbia or Bosnia?
Actually, we had quite a lot (still do) shared history of cultural, artistic and national-uprising exchange in the past couple of hundred years. But I won't deny there were/are quarrels (even occasional wars). Our tensions are our rivalry.


Historically, greatest foe would be Hungary. We were under Hungarian rule in way or another for almost thousand years. Frankly, I'm wondering why my language and culture aren't much more Hungarian-influenced.




It may not be so surprising: after all, from the Middle Age to the 19th century, big kingdoms/empires never really tried to repress "regional" or minority linguages.
In France, it wasn't until the late 19th century that the Republic decides to make school free, lay and mandatory - with lessons only told in French. So, even in Britanny, Alsatia, French Flanders... the linguage remained "unfrenchized".

Rivalry, rivalry... One of my friends is croatian (born in Bosnia) and she seems to be ready to seize a gun when only referencing the very word "Serbia". Confused




Yes, it seems some people have a threshold of tolerance so low they can't even hear a word, let along talk to a person of a certain nationality.Unhappy

Fortunately, those are exceptions rather than the rule - the majority of people that I know are normal and don't care about those things. If nothing else, most people are sick and tired of the same old story. It's a long overdue to move on.
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