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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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What I mean is someone who is there in person, attacking the forces of your country.
I don't know the greatest, but examples could be Charles Cornwallis, Benedict Arnold, George Prévost, Robert E. Lee, etc. Note that the requirements do not say someone actually attacked a country- just one that engaged your forces during a particular war. George Washington never went to the UK to take over London, but he was voted Britain's greatest enemy. I hope that clears things up. |
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Dayvenkirq ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
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^ To me "personally" sounds like a direct attack against a country in speech.
On the topic: I can't choose between Hitler and Napoleon. Napoleon did quite a mess in my country with Barclay-de-Tolly & Co. The babka burned Moscow, for God's sake. On the other hand even if Hitler and Stalin had a Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact c. 1939 (which explains why in Russia they would say WWII started in 1941, whereas in the States they would say 1939), I wouldn't have been born if that Nazi officer didn't spare my grandmother and her family.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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How can someone personally attack a country? You mean someone who was also a warrior? In that case probably some Peruvian guy... I'm not going back to the time of the Incas...
And who would be the US' greatest foe under those terms Robert? Who has personally attacked the US?
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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Oh come on guys. Hitler did not personally attack you. Neither did King George. I'm asking you to consider warriors and generals. Dig a little deeper into history if you must.
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Flyingsod ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 19 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 564 |
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Being a yankee severely limits my choices here. There's just not that many that have attacked us. I guess I'll have to admit to being ambivalent... between king George and Hitler.
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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I think we can all agree that there were and are internal people whose actions we detest, but I am asking about a militaristic force, not a philosophical or political one. We can have those discussions in the political or Libertarian threads, I think. I wanted this to be a more historical topic. |
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manofmystery ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
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Hard to pick. Woodrow Wilson, John Maynard Keynes, TR, FDR, Alexander Hamilton, maybe John Marshall. There are a lot, actually.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Dick Cheney
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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zappaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
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Posting before someone says Obama.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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Tuzvihar ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 18 2005 Location: C. Schinesghe Status: Offline Points: 13536 |
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Easy. Hitler and Stalin.
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24603 |
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The only greatest foe I can think of engages my country neither personally nor militarily.
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Kotro ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 16 2004 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
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After careful thinking, I would have to say no individual outsider has been as much a foe as some of our natives.
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Bigger on the inside.
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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This article inspired me to open this historical thread:
What individual person- not group nor country- was your nation's greatest foe? Your choice can come from any time period since your nation was established, but that individual must have engaged your country personally and militarily in some manner. |
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