Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

Nov wrote: UK DATE FOR THE FLOWER KINGS!! Sunday 23 September 2012 The Flower Kings The Picturedrome, Holmfirth   I think this is to be confirmed and it's all I know at the moment.

 

Roj M30 wrote: Nov wrote: UK DATE FOR THE FLOWER KINGS!! Sunday 23 September 2012 The Flower Kings The Picturedrome, Holmfirth   I think this is to be confirmed and it's all I know at the moment.   Hey Nov, where did you find this?  Is it confirmed?   If so, I am there without a doubt .

Roland113 wrote: Roj M30 wrote: Nov wrote: UK DATE FOR THE FLOWER KINGS!! Sunday 23 September 2012 The Flower Kings The Picturedrome, Holmfirth   I think this is to be confirmed and it's all I know at the moment.   Hey Nov, where did you find this?  Is it confirmed?   If so, I am there without a doubt . Hey Roj, Long time no see, how's the world treating you? Tom

 

It DOES seem that us relative late comers to this thread have taken over somewhat 

I agree with all that has been said about this "forum within a forum".  I've noticed that every Flower Kings forum I've ever been part of has (mostly) been very friendly.  Obviously, people who are into them share their positive outlook.

Dennis, I couldn't agree more with your post about religion and politics.  I just find that individuals like Morse or Anderson are not a part of what you are talking about.  Also, being non-religious (but having a degree in Religious Studies) I just don't really find myself bothered by religious or spiritual lyrics.  I HAVE heard what I consider to be preachy Christian music, and aside from the fact that it was crappy musically, I would not have listened to it again because of the "preachyness" alone.  I just don't really get that from Morse, Stolt, or Anderson.  Morse is borderline sometimes, but I can get past it because his music is so good (mostly).

I used to be rabidly anti-religious.  I avoided listening to any of Morse's post-born again material because I hated hearing any religious content whatsoever (unless it was bashing religion).  Over the years though, I've realized that many people I care about have been helped by their religion and that it is important to them.  I can appreciate this, and I've realized that the problem with religion is not the people who believe, but the people who use it to achieve their own personal ends.  Who wield it like a weapon.  There are far too many of those people in US politics these days, and in the US in general (I think it goes without saying there are too many people like that in the middle east, as well).  I still think humanity would be better off if it could grow out of these ancient myth based institutions, but I don't expect that will be happening in my lifetime.  So, like you Dennis, I will base my feelings about people on their actions, not their words.  In that regard, Morse has made some great music, with some cheesy and unoriginal lyrics, but the music is what matters and if the words are what he strongly believes than who am I to question his happiness?  If he starts calling for a theocracy in the USA, then I'll probably stop listening to his music.  I can't say much about Anderson, only that his lyrics of the past 15 years have become increasingly repetitive and unimaginative.  I've heard almost none of his solo work and don't really have much interest in it.  Roine, on the other hand writes stuff I can really relate to and agree with, most of the time.  He's a die hard lefty spiritual humanist and I can get behind that completely.  I still don't agree with him 100% on everything though.

Anyway, sorry for the long post.  I can't wait until we have new Flower Kings to discuss!!!!     

infandous wrote: It DOES seem that us relative late comers to this thread have taken over somewhat  I agree with all that has been said about this "forum within a forum".  I've noticed that every Flower Kings forum I've ever been part of has (mostly) been very friendly.  Obviously, people who are into them share their positive outlook. Dennis, I couldn't agree more with your post about religion and politics.  I just find that individuals like Morse or Anderson are not a part of what you are talking about.  Also, being non-religious (but having a degree in Religious Studies) I just don't really find myself bothered by religious or spiritual lyrics.  I HAVE heard what I consider to be preachy Christian music, and aside from the fact that it was crappy musically, I would not have listened to it again because of the "preachyness" alone.  I just don't really get that from Morse, Stolt, or Anderson.  Morse is borderline sometimes, but I can get past it because his music is so good (mostly). I used to be rabidly anti-religious.  I avoided listening to any of Morse's post-born again material because I hated hearing any religious content whatsoever (unless it was bashing religion).  Over the years though, I've realized that many people I care about have been helped by their religion and that it is important to them.  I can appreciate this, and I've realized that the problem with religion is not the people who believe, but the people who use it to achieve their own personal ends.  Who wield it like a weapon.  There are far too many of those people in US politics these days, and in the US in general (I think it goes without saying there are too many people like that in the middle east, as well).  I still think humanity would be better off if it could grow out of these ancient myth based institutions, but I don't expect that will be happening in my lifetime.  So, like you Dennis, I will base my feelings about people on their actions, not their words.  In that regard, Morse has made some great music, with some cheesy and unoriginal lyrics, but the music is what matters and if the words are what he strongly believes than who am I to question his happiness?  If he starts calling for a theocracy in the USA, then I'll probably stop listening to his music.  I can't say much about Anderson, only that his lyrics of the past 15 years have become increasingly repetitive and unimaginative.  I've heard almost none of his solo work and don't really have much interest in it.  Roine, on the other hand writes stuff I can really relate to and agree with, most of the time.  He's a die hard lefty spiritual humanist and I can get behind that completely.  I still don't agree with him 100% on everything though. Anyway, sorry for the long post.  I can't wait until we have new Flower Kings to discuss!!!!

lazland wrote: Listening to The Sum Of No Evil for the first time in quite a while this evening. If the new one is of such high quality, then we are in for a treat this year!

infandous wrote: It DOES seem that us relative late comers to this thread have taken over somewhat

Just curious.  What do you guys think of a band like Sylvan?  Do they appeal to the average TFK fan, or are they too heavy or alternative sounding?

infandous wrote: It DOES seem that us relative late comers to this thread have taken over somewhat  I agree with all that has been said about this "forum within a forum".  I've noticed that every Flower Kings forum I've ever been part of has (mostly) been very friendly.  Obviously, people who are into them share their positive outlook. Dennis, I couldn't agree more with your post about religion and politics.  I just find that individuals like Morse or Anderson are not a part of what you are talking about.  Also, being non-religious (but having a degree in Religious Studies) I just don't really find myself bothered by religious or spiritual lyrics.  I HAVE heard what I consider to be preachy Christian music, and aside from the fact that it was crappy musically, I would not have listened to it again because of the "preachyness" alone.  I just don't really get that from Morse, Stolt, or Anderson.  Morse is borderline sometimes, but I can get past it because his music is so good (mostly). I used to be rabidly anti-religious.  I avoided listening to any of Morse's post-born again material because I hated hearing any religious content whatsoever (unless it was bashing religion).  Over the years though, I've realized that many people I care about have been helped by their religion and that it is important to them.  I can appreciate this, and I've realized that the problem with religion is not the people who believe, but the people who use it to achieve their own personal ends.  Who wield it like a weapon.  There are far too many of those people in US politics these days, and in the US in general (I think it goes without saying there are too many people like that in the middle east, as well).  I still think humanity would be better off if it could grow out of these ancient myth based institutions, but I don't expect that will be happening in my lifetime.  So, like you Dennis, I will base my feelings about people on their actions, not their words.  In that regard, Morse has made some great music, with some cheesy and unoriginal lyrics, but the music is what matters and if the words are what he strongly believes than who am I to question his happiness?  If he starts calling for a theocracy in the USA, then I'll probably stop listening to his music.  I can't say much about Anderson, only that his lyrics of the past 15 years have become increasingly repetitive and unimaginative.  I've heard almost none of his solo work and don't really have much interest in it.  Roine, on the other hand writes stuff I can really relate to and agree with, most of the time.  He's a die hard lefty spiritual humanist and I can get behind that completely.  I still don't agree with him 100% on everything though. Anyway, sorry for the long post.  I can't wait until we have new Flower Kings to discuss!!!!

About the "hostile takeover" here, we will probably get all tired and pass out pretty soon and then the old timers can have the thread back.

Please don't apologize for the not long but excellent post, on this forum like most others there are so many mindless posts or petty insults, so a quality post is always welcome, IMHO. I appreciate that you went into detail and made your case, I think that is how we can learn about people. So many other threads devolve to name calling
and negativity and we have already learned to do that kind of dialog in like the 2nd grade, so anyway....

I would be happy to answer some of the Religion talk, but I think I should send you a PM.  I do believe that us FK fans here have some serious mojo working in this thread, and I don't wanna even test the waters on tipping any balance we may have achieved, however accidental.  Perhaps if I get more into religion and tell you guys that
we should all worship the gourd and not follow the shoe, it may cause tensions here.  That would be a shame.  TFK music is so positive and wondrous, I think the music is what helps keep things cool here. Plus I do think you lads are coming around and are seeing the light more about the greatest Flower Kings song ever.  At this point I know we don't even need to name it.  That is how far we have come.

@infandous: please give me some time with that PM, when I can be clear & concise with my words I will shoot it your way.

@thread

I like Retropolis. Dop de dop the rhythm of life!

Something like that.

Not an A list band for me though. Good, but nonessential.

I haven't spent enough time on them, because nothing really caught me other than that they are generally good.