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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2012 at 16:44
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/02/10982324-supreme-court-strip-searches-even-for-minor-offenses
 
WTF?
 
excuse me....
 
 
 
WTF!!!
When people complain about libertarians and freedom-minded people whining about little minor things, this is why: eventually people don't even realize when they are totally helpless and their liberties totally destroyed. That's the problem with "minor attacks on liberty". They eventually lead to major ones. 

Disgusting. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2012 at 07:53
So Rombot's got it, you can't stand Obama, the Libertarian Party is still the biggest third in the country and haven't picked their candidate.  Who do you guys favor?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2012 at 10:24
Ron Paul
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2012 at 10:43
Ron Paul
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2012 at 10:49

Will he run 3rd party in the general? Will the established Libertarian party take him?

 
I ask as a Libertarian outsider.
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2012 at 10:56
Republicans will of course try to avoid that since it will definitely kill their boy Obamney. I'm not so sure it would be beneficial to the movement though. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2012 at 11:00
The Libertarians took him in the 80s, and the president of the party said they would love to have Ron if he chose to run with them. However, Ron has made it relatively clear that he has no plans of running third party. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2012 at 14:18

He'd be defeating his own cause by going third party.  He knows, from past experience, that third party runs, in this country, are DOA and that his movement has to take place within the "two" party system.  I will say that while most of us will still write-in Dr. Paul, in November, we need to make sure that we verbally support Gary Johnson if polled.  He needs to get at least 15% in national polls for a position on the debate stage. 

Here's Johnson's recent appearance on Colbert (still dislike Colbert, btw):

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2012 at 19:50
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Ron Paul

Ron's not running, second choice.  And you can't say Rand either.LOL

Edited by Slartibartfast - April 04 2012 at 19:51
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2012 at 00:48
Writing in Ron Paul

Also not gunna answer a hypothetical because there's no point. No more compromising, or voting to "win". From now on I'm writing in my candidate regardless.


I wish I did back in 08. I liked Obama, and he was pretty close to me but ideally I liked Dennis Kucinich and Russ Feingold more, (both did run). If I didn't feel compelled to support the big guy I would've voted Kucinich for the primary and election.

Edit: Paul seems sincere on not running third party and just to put any slim chance to rest, I saw somewhere he said definitively he would not run with Romney if given the opportunity.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2012 at 01:19
BTW we all know obviously the nomination is Romney's (no matter how it needs to happen) but I see the delegates from the April 3rd states were all uncommitted.

Doesn't that mean technically Romney hasn't won anything more?

No one seems to have any f**king clue but his "count" is the same as it was earlier.
Am I wrong? The media will now say he's unstoppable since especially since Wisconsin was the be all end all...but has he won any more delegates?

Of course even if it's brokered some deal will be made to get him the nomination in the end.
I also like how Santorum isn't even on the ballot in every stateLOL 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2012 at 07:40
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Ron Paul

Ron's not running, second choice.  And you can't say Rand either.LOL



There is no second choice. I won't vote.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2012 at 07:40
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

BTW we all know obviously the nomination is Romney's (no matter how it needs to happen) but I see the delegates from the April 3rd states were all uncommitted.

Doesn't that mean technically Romney hasn't won anything more?

No one seems to have any f**king clue but his "count" is the same as it was earlier.
Am I wrong? The media will now say he's unstoppable since especially since Wisconsin was the be all end all...but has he won any more delegates?

Of course even if it's brokered some deal will be made to get him the nomination in the end.
I also like how Santorum isn't even on the ballot in every stateLOL 


There are no delegates from the caucus states yet. They only include projections based on the vote breakdown.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2012 at 15:17
I thought so, since they were unbound doesn't that mean technically they are not obligated to anyone?
As you said, it's just what we estimate.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2012 at 09:07
They are not. They can side with whomever they chose. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2012 at 11:48

Also, since slarti likes comics:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2012 at 10:41
^Good both. 

Now the new "issue of the day" in idiotic FL is the outrage about a baseball coach (the Marlins one) who said he respects Fidel Castro in a recent interview. I understand many people in south FL come from Cuba and hate Castro but if you saw the level of outrage, they are asking for this guy's head now. As always in USA, when you say something people don't like, you have to apologize. He just apologized. It's so stupid. He is certainly stupid, knowing where he works, to have said that, but I love the freedom of speech that is shown when people say things the majority doesn't like....

And yes this is the first and last time in my life I will ever pay attention to any news with the word "baseball" on it...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2012 at 10:48
At the same time though, it is a big deal because people will adjust their consumption patterns due to this outrage. The owners of the team need to treat this as a major event or suffer the fallout.

With that said, I agree that people care too much what other morons in the world think. I also think it's tough since he doesn't have the best grasp of English.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2012 at 10:55
True. In the end, we can all agree the guy said something incredibly stupid, not so much because of the content itself but because of the context where he said it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2012 at 11:08
My primary criticism of the minimum wage is that cost of living simply goes up, so the money workers earn buys less.
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