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Sagichim ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 29 2006 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 6632 |
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This is a great song actually with a lot of different parts in it, filled with good rocking guitars, the vocals are definitely the low side of the song i agree, but just take a look at the vocalists credit in other albums and take your pick from there.
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Harry Hood ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 15 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1305 |
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At first I thought it was funny that a song performed by two Dutchmen could sound to someone like it came from the American South, but listening to it again, I can kind of hear it. The Duane Allman-esque leads, that Garth Hudson groove on the drums, the Freebird lead during Arjen's chrous. I guess I never noticed it before because the Allman Brothers and Skynrd don't typically sing about hippies and barbaric warlords. Pretty amazing nonetheless. "Christ forbid I am no coward, pitted against a monster made of ghosts!"
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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I only have Into The Electric Castle and The Human Equation so I don't get what you're talking about but I'm intrigued.
Could someone expand on this please?
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12816 |
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Well, Rhapsody (of Fire) have had their whole discography devoted to one same story. Their last album seems to have been the last one on this same story though. |
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VanVanVan ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 756 |
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Basically 01 tells the story of how a race of machines try to gain knowledge of emotion by populating the Earth with humans. When humans seem to be moving towards the same machine-induced armageddon they themselves faced they provide the technology to send memories back in time as a warning (which of course is the story told on "The Final Experiment"). This however, also fails, and humanity is annihilated by nuclear war in 2084. The only survivor ends up on Mars and his experiences there with a VR machine called the dream sequencer make up the story of "The Universal Migrator." The story is completed with one final member of the machine race (called "Forevers") trying and finally succeeding to comprehend emotion on "Into the Electric Castle" and "The Human Equation," which explains the last little snippet on THE. Hope that's somewhat helpful, I've always been impressed by how clearly the story is told without sacrificing musical integrity.
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"The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen
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Harry Hood ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 15 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1305 |
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Pretty good summary, though you missed the bit about how the messages are delivered through a blind minstrel named Ayreon, who is later reincarnated as "The Hippie", who is institutionalized in 01 (and it's revealed that his name is "Mr. L").
It's an important detail because the new Arjen solo album is going to continue and conclude the story of Mr. L.
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gerdtheater ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 03 2011 Status: Offline Points: 298 |
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I love The Human Equation not only for the music, but for all great vocalists like Arkelfeldt, LaBrie! Heather Findlay, Mike Baker, etc. Everyone concentrates on their job and the result is amazing! Really enjoy listening to this album
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Playing a three-hour Rush show is like running a marathon while solving equations.
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Eric Mallory ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: July 23 2012 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 29 |
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I love everything Lucassen's done. A great musician and very friendly guy as well.
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Withnail ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 10 2012 Location: Leeds Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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I first heard Ayreon when someone played me the Hawkwind melody they did on the Star One album. Been hooked ever since.
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AtomicCrimsonRush ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
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I love Arjen's latest solo album too so he is always going to be awesome even on his own
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Timeline Ayreon boxset is worth getting!
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CCVP ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 15 2007 Location: Vitória, Brasil Status: Offline Points: 7971 |
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Even though I'm a huge fan of Arjen's works, I did not liked his latest opus at all. Sounds too much like some sort of Ayreon-light to my ears.
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AtomicCrimsonRush ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
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^^^ Arjen does what he is best at on the latest CD and I hope he continues to create concept albums with as much passion. I prefer Ayreon of course as i love to hear the various singers but I give credit to the man for pulling it off without all those singers for once.
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CorwinA ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2017 Location: California, USA Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Hopefully it's not bad form to end up bumping older threads to the top, but I just wanted to express my agreement with the sentiment that "Ayreon is awesome". I only wish I had discovered them/Arjen L. sooner. Though now I do get to have this enormous catalog of amazing music to delve into since it has been building up for years. :D The first one that really grabbed me was "The Final Experiment". Specifically, the song "Listen To The Waves", for some reason. Then I got into the rest of the tracks/story and was just blown away by the obvious passion and musicianship that had gone into it. Am now making my way through "Into The Electric Castle" and looking forward to the rest!
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Dopeydoc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 05 2016 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 1366 |
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The theater equation is also a masterpiece. But after 01, I find Ayreon is just good now. Looking forward to an opus like Into the electric castle...
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essexboyinwales ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 27 2015 Location: Bridgend Status: Online Points: 5236 |
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Ayreon is indeed awesome
![]() The Human Equation, Into The Electric Castle, 01011001 and The Theory Of Everything are all phenomenal albums, Dream Sequencer is not far behind, The Source is also very good, but I do worry that he is stretching the story a little far now and should do something unrelated with the next one. Listening to Ayreon has introduced me to so many great voices and acts, I really can't thank Arjen Lucassen enough. Threshold, Damian Wilson, Anneke Van Geersburgen, Nightwish, Opeth, Devin Townsend Project, Lacuna Coil, etc...... |
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CorwinA ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2017 Location: California, USA Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Oh yeah, absolutely - Ayreon is both great in its own right as a project, and great in terms of being a gateway into a whole realm of excellent performers who all have their own stuff one can go check out.
Currently (as in, for the past week or so) I'm obsessing madly over "The Source" and "01011001" and going back and forth between those two albums picking out all the threads of story that go backwards and forwards. I LOVE how there's so much referencing of other albums across the suite of records making up the 'Ayreon story'. It was also a nice surprise to hear Phideaux Xavier on 01011001 - would love to hear more collaboration between their projects.
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RockHound ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 03 2013 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 664 |
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I like all of he Ayreon albums starting with into the electric castle. Universal Migrator,(vol. 1) and The Human Equation are the real standouts for me. I sense no love for The Theory of Everything here, but I guess many considered the initial revelation of 42 to be a major disappointment.
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zachfive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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I've been listening to Ayreon almost exclusively for about 3 months now
and I'm going to throw my two cents into this thread. Like most people
here I really enjoy Ayreons music. For those who don't like him, that's
you opinion and I get that. But I kind of equate that my feelings to for
Tom Brady. Sure I hate the man, don't like him and that's my opinion;
but if we were talking about his actual ability well then yeah he is
pretty freakin good. Arjen Lucasssen is the same way, sure you may not enjoy
his music, but his understanding of music composition and music
production are undeniable. Another stand out quality that I believe makes
his music so good is his leadership. He seems to be the anti-Fripp,
knowing when and how to utilize the talents around him without it being a
dictatorship. On many occasions he has let the vocalist for a song
develop the vocal melody, examples include - but not limited too, "My
House on Mars" and "Waking Dreams". When presenting Arjen with his
Virtuoso Award for the 2014 Prog Awards Damian Wilson said, "He is the
most wonderful man in the world, but most people don't get a chance to
see how wonderful he is. But they get a chance to hear it. And he sees
the best in everyone, and when he records with musicians he always
brings out the best in them." Any research into the man himself and you
can see how humble, modest, and talented he really is.
As for the music itself, well I think Arjen described Ayreons sound better than anyone. In an interview about 01011001 he said "Ayreon is a combination of power and melody, it's very important for me" It is this cornerstone upon which he builds his music, and it shows. In addition to this foundation of composition, he includes power synth runs that are as catchy as they are appropriate. Never too much and always just enough. His influences are many, but the sounds at the forefront are metal, folk, and symphonic prog all wrapped in a rock opera delivery system that just seem to coalesce into one deliciously cheesy experience. I say cheesy, well, because it is, but in the best way possible. The story he tells, and the music through which he tells it, is so grandiose that it couldn't be any other way. I remember the first time I listened to "Connect the Dots", so much lyrical cheese I was face palming. But I realized I was taking the song out of context, listening to it as a single entity rather than a piece of the whole. This is where I feel Ayreon loses a lot of people. Like a cake, Ayreon is best enjoyed as a whole fully baked product, not eaten one ingredient at a time. Within the context of the album "Connect the Dots" becomes one of the most powerful songs. Delving beneath the surface of lyrics like "I picked up fast food on the way and it's finger licking good" or "Peer to Peer the torrent flows into my lap." You see Arjen is speaking about the loss of emotions and how oblivious people are of that fact, and how aware and helpless The Forever Race is of their human progeny. This brings me to my favorite aspect of Ayreons music and that is this amazing story he has told. A brilliant multi layered story that while on the surface is about an alien race and their influence on humanity, below is well observed commentary on a human emotions. A great read is prognotes Ayreon's The Forever Saga(http://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2017/04/13/prognotes-ayreons-the-forever-saga-part-i-the-final-experiment-kinda/). So far there are only two parts but it is a thorough breakdown of the story behind Ayreons music. Here is my list of favorite Ayeron albums starting with what I feel to be his best to his not as good as the others. This does not include solo albums or Star One albums, which are also very good and I would put above some of Ayerons work. TIER ONE Into the Electric Castle - Perfect blend of story telling and song writing. Classic Ayreon sound. 01011001 - My personal favorite, very hard sounding with some balanced softer spots. Pound for pound offers the best melodies and contains my personal favorite group of vocalist. Universal Migrator pt 1 & 2 - Putting these as a single entity. Part one great symph/classic prog, Part two great metal/heavy prog. TIER TWO The Human Equation - I know most would put this higher on the list, and while musically it is stellar, I find that the story telling is a bit one dimensional. While yes, it has all the things I love Ayreon albums for, the plot is a bit straightforward, and I felt kind of jipped at the end, like a great movie with a bad ending. I very much enjoy the album, but not as much as other people. The Final Experiment - Sets the tone for Arjens style, which only refines and get better with future releases. The first Ayreon story actually told but is more around the fourth in the series of events. Great album, but actually would not recommend as a place to start to someone who is looking to get into Ayreon. Also cool to think that Merlin professed that that another minstrel will appear at the end of the 20th century and that it is actually Arjen himself, bringing a real life dimension to the story that I think is cool. The Source - Love the story, love the hard heavy sound. Some great vocal harmonies, but kind of lacks that je ne sais quoi that the The Human Equation or Electric Castle have. TIER THREE Actual Fantasy - Not considered to be part of "The Forever Saga", but has sci-fi elements and a nod here or there to some Ayreon lore. Enjoyable. The Theory of Everything - There are some parts I really enjoy, and others not so much. One thing is for sure that the style and sound are consistently Ayreon. This album is simply just alright and is also outside of "The Forever Saga". Something has to be the floor to the high ceiling set by all the other albums, this album is that floor. TL:DR - Ayreon is indeed awesome Edited by zachfive - August 01 2017 at 20:33 |
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CorwinA ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2017 Location: California, USA Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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zachfive: hehe, same here on the "last 3 months of Ayreon"-listening. I wish sometimes I'd heard of him/them sooner, but then again, only having learned relatively recently means I get to devour this whole universe of interconnected albums like I'm binge-watching on Netflix. I can understand why the music would not be to everyone's taste, but the sheer scale and unwaveringly solid musicianship of the project ought to be objectively impressive to anyone.
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zachfive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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This should be interesting to Ayreon fans.
"Ayreon Universe is Ayreon live in concert for the first time ever, organized and arranged by Arjen A. Lucassen and Joost van den Broek. The Ayreon Universe set list features selected songs from all Ayreon albums plus a selection of Star One songs." VocalistsFloor Jansen - Nightwish
Damian Wilson - Threshold
Hansi Kürsch - Blind Guardian
Tommy Karevik - Kamelot
Anneke van Giersbergen - The Gentle Storm
Marco Hietala - Nightwish
Jonas Renkse - Katatonia
Mike Mills - Toehider
Marcela Bovio - Stream of Passion
Irene Jansen - Ayreon
Robert Soeterboek - Star One
John Jaycee Cuijpers - Praying Mantis
Edward Reekers - Kayak
Jay van Feggelen - Ayreon
Maggy Luyten - Nightmare
Lisette van den Berg - Scarlet Stories
InstrumentalistsEd Warby - Drums
Johan van Stratum - Bass
Marcel Coenen - Lead guitar
Ferry Duijsens - Guitar
Joost van den Broek - Keyboards
Ben Mathot - Violin
Jeroen Goossens - Flutes, woodwinds
Maaike Peterse - Cello
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