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Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

And the bit about Neal was meant as a joke, I figured that was obvious.

not being very familar with SB or Morse, and not having particularly cared for what I heard, it wasn't obvious to me at all, sorry .  I assumed that this Hairy Butt tour was somehow a gay and out and proud event
Guess that's how rumors get started Tongue
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Neal Morse is not, I repeat, not gay.
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^This picture would be more efficient with two metalheads hugging each other, one with a Dream Theater shirt, another with an Entombed shirt.

Just sayin'.
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That would be hilarious. But I found it when I googled "gay prog", which was the second prog-related thing I found (the first being ELP's Love Beach).
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

That would be hilarious. But I found it when I googled "gay prog", which was the second prog-related thing I found (the first being ELP's Love Beach).
It makes sense.
 
The outchorus of the title track:
 
I'm gonna make love to you, on love beach
Make all your dreams come true, on love beach
Gonna make love to you, on love beach
Gonna make your dreams come true, on love beach
Gonna make love to you, on love beach...
 
Greg is singing to the listener.
Everybody knows women don't listen to prog.
I'll leave the rest to your imagination.
 
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For some reason, I don't really think the average ELP fan stammered: "Oooooh, Greeeeeg, such... Such lovely words... I would have never.... I would have never expected it from you...Embarrassed "
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But for that one fan, for whom Greg's words reached that intimate place...
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

Jonsi (Sigur Ros)
Dee Palmer (formerly of Jethro Tull)
Robert John Godfrey (The Enid)
Neal Morse (speculated, participated in the "Hairy Butt Tour" with Nick D'Virgilio)
Wendy Carlos
Rob Halford (Judas Priest)
Sara Lee (Robert Fripp's League Of Gentlemen)
Peter Christopherson (Throbbing Gristle)

I'll add to that list:
Doug Pinnick (King's X)
Gaahl

There are also a number of artists who haven't publicly "come out", likely because they don't feel the need to.


Didn't someone also mention Kit Watkins of Happy the Man (admittedly instrumentalist so not wholly on topic)? Since Judas Priest isn't on PA, that opens the field a bit more to name other "non prog" artists.  I think a good candidate is Marc Almond formerly of 1980s group "Soft Cell".  His solo work is not your typical pop and his lyrics poetically capture some of the angst of being gay in a straight world.  I really also have to mention a pioneer in singing about gay politics and leftist politics in general, English new waver Tom Robinson, who achieved major success in the UK around 1978 in a generally hard rocking style, although some cabaret was mixed in to his anthem "Glad to Be Gay".  For younger people who don't know of him, definitely worth checking out his early work.


I'll have to check these guys out, thanks!
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Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

And the bit about Neal was meant as a joke, I figured that was obvious.
 
 
Hi Harry Hood,  Smile
 
I saw Neal's name in the middle of this list of known(at least to my limited capacity) rock stars, so it was kinda confusing. Good to get the clarification, and it is nice to meet you. Tongue
 
True story now, you really freaked out my better half when she saw your avatar photo.  I love Marillion & Transatlantic, can you share the story of that less than photogenic picture of Pete T.?
 
Cheers!
 
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Neal Morse is not, I repeat, not gay.
 
This coming from a man, with an open shirt showing most of his chest hair???Wink
 
My dear sir, you are a bit short on credibility in this matter.  In addition a few boxes down you
futher validate my point by mentioning ELP Love Beach - Three more guys showing off nipples and everythying.Confused
Why can't men button their shirts anymore???
 
As a huge ELP fan, when Love Beach came out, I stopped breathing and gasped, Oh God!  My Heroes have gone gay!
No kidding...  (Not that there is anytihng wrong with that.Wink)
 
So yeah, in light of all the non prog musicians who have been mentioned here, the ELP Love Beach reference is the closest we've seen to being on topic of the original post.  Greg Lake has always had romantic lyrics, but Love Beach
seemed to tip the scales squarely into the territory of this thread.(Again, not that there is anything wrong with that...)
 
Going to see Greg Lake in concert in a few weeks actually.  Should be cool.  I hope he buttons most of his shirt.Shocked
 
 
P.S.  darkshade - you know I am just having fun, right?  I am not implying anything about you, only your avatar photo.Wink
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

.it's about prog music that touches upon LGBT themes. Far from contributing, you're preventing discussion.
Hi Man Overboard, Smile
 
Allow me to jump in here.
 
I have already voiced my reservations about these types of threads(in general - religion, sexuality, etc...)
And I have voiced my strong support for this thread in particular(though I did withdraw it just for fun to bust some chops...Wink I felt my precious 1970's childhood was being attacked.)  But then I gave my support back for good.....Smile
 
Having said that, considering the subject matter and how polarizing it can be I thought overall things were going better than to be expected, so I would hate to see this closed as we have come so far and haven't killed each other.LOL
 
And as I do get serious from time to time, a bigger truth is that I am a HUGE Spock's Beard & Transatlantic fan
and I absolutely love the picture of Neal in your signature.Big smile   So it is cool to see your posts around here if only for the visuals. Tongue
 
Cheers!
 
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Oh you of the multistyled text and prolific emoticons that almost evoke memories of the late, great Peter Rideout. I know what you mean. You're here for the music. You don't give a damn what people do in the bedroom, and what the bloody hell does it have to do with prog? And if this doesn't describe you, it describes someone, dammit.

And to they, I say prog and really music in general is an abstraction for life and its many experiences and imaginations for many people. Prog, by its nature, is more exploratory (than mainstream radio singles), like a good yarn from a quirky storyteller, even without words. People who face oppression can find a lot to love in prog. LGBT folk are people with their own experiences, and their issues are rarely centered around the bedroom (though Lawrence Vs Texas was less than a decade ago). As long as ignorance and inequality exist, there will be oppression for LGBT people, and as long as there are so many humanist themes, messages of finding solace, strength, solidarity, facing difficult obstacles, as long as unique pictures are painted of people we haven't expected to be portrayed, there will continue to be a lot to love from we.

That Neal Morse picture is something I'm rather proud of. I'd been turning the logo idea over in my head, and one day, I simply couldn't resist myself. My boyfriend suggested adding the still shot from this Hell music video, and he picked out the face, too. 

PS, forum: the T stands for transgender/transsexual.
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Fat as he is now I don't think Greg Lake can button a shirt. LOL
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Fat as he is now I don't think Greg Lake can button a shirt. LOL
 
Was just gonna say that, more than buttoning his shirt he will have to button his shroud Tongue
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Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:


Oh you of the multistyled text and prolific emoticons that almost evoke memories of the late, great Peter Rideout. I know what you mean. You're here for the music. You don't give a damn what people do in the bedroom, and what the bloody hell does it have to do with prog? And if this doesn't describe you, it describes someone, dammit.

And to they, I say prog and really music in general is an abstraction for life and its many experiences and imaginations for many people. Prog, by its nature, is more exploratory (than mainstream radio singles), like a good yarn from a quirky storyteller, even without words. People who face oppression can find a lot to love in prog. LGBT folk are people with their own experiences, and their issues are rarely centered around the bedroom (though Lawrence Vs Texas was less than a decade ago). As long as ignorance and inequality exist, there will be oppression for LGBT people, and as long as there are so many humanist themes, messages of finding solace, strength, solidarity, facing difficult obstacles, as long as unique pictures are painted of people we haven't expected to be portrayed, there will continue to be a lot to love from we.

That Neal Morse picture is something I'm rather proud of. I'd been turning the logo idea over in my head, and one day, I simply couldn't resist myself. My boyfriend suggested adding the still shot from this Hell music video, and he picked out the face, too. 
 
Hey man,
 
Is this the Peter Rideout you speak of?
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=924
 
I googled the name as well and I couldn't find much, but it seems to be a compliment, so I will take it as such.  Thank you.
 
As far as my  "multistyled text and prolific emoticons" they probably annoy at lot of people, but then I am what I am.
I was trodding through the would and then one day my brother said to me:  "Do you know that you are prone to hyperbole?"  And I stopped in my tracks, and then I realised that was what I was.  So why change?  I probably couldn't change if I wanted to.   Frank Zappa said, "You is what you is" and I believe that.
 
But either way, your post was very enlightening and you are obviously a very well spoken person. 
 
Yes, I agree Prog is special and a provides a deeper level of musical enjoyment than most.  But you really put it more eloquently, so I won't belabor the point.
 
Cheers!
 
P.S.  And yeah, I am here for the music and I don't give a crap what others think, unless they speak poorly of
The Flower King's Chicken Farmer Song. Smile
 
 
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I'm confused at what's going on in this thread. It just seems like its turning into the LGBT shred.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Fat as he is now I don't think Greg Lake can button a shirt. LOL
 
Ok, ok, I will share in your humor, but for consistency's sake, I gave Laz the "what for" and then some for
implying that one of my heroes is a a "fatty".
 
 
Scroll down to see my post, one which he never replied to as I think he never recovered from it, quite frankly. Wink
 
The real story I think is how much Greg Lake's voice has deteriorated.  It is sad and apparently is completely random
as it affects some and not other singers.  Obviously lifestyle can affect the voice, but most of it is luck.
 
Jon Anderson's voice is as precious as ever
 
John Wetton, despite his lifestyle his voice is basically 98% of what it was, which is amazing.
 
Greg is perhaps running on 50% which is a true loss, as he had one of the great voices of all time in rock
or any kind of music.
 
P.S.  You know you look kinda fat in your avatar.. by the way...
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Originally posted by Deathrabbit Deathrabbit wrote:

I'm confused at what's going on in this thread. It just seems like its turning into the LGBT shred.
 
Dude,
 
We are talking about ELP - Love Beach seeming to be gay.  That is on topic, yes?
 
And don't forget Rule No.1 in all public forums.
 
A busy thread is a happy thread.Tongue
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http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=85546

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I don't understand what you are offended about.  Greg Lake IS a fatty.
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