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cstack3
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Topic: Jon Davison with Yes Posted: March 27 2012 at 00:12 |
Rehearsal, posted on Facebook by the official Yes FB site:
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 06:35 |
Another Jon, eh? Best wishes.
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spknoevl
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 07:51 |
Wow, talk about a generation gap. It looks like some kid sitting in with his grandfather's band.
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 08:00 |
spknoevl wrote:
Wow, talk about a generation gap. It looks like some kid sitting in with his grandfather's band. |
Heh. One of these guys is not like the others. One of these guys just doesn't belong...
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 08:45 |
Evolver wrote:
spknoevl wrote:
Wow, talk about a generation gap. It looks like some kid sitting in with his grandfather's band. |
Heh. One of these guys is not like the others. One of these guys just doesn't belong... |
Let's check his age first before we draw such conclusions. Maybe this guy just looks well-preserved.
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 09:37 |
Well, based on his photos and what life history I've found for him, I'd guess he's in his early to mid 40's (he's best friends with Taylor Hawkins, the drummer of the Foo Fighters, who was born in 1972).
In any case, young enough to be the child of any of the other Yes members..................
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 09:49 |
i really wonder how long these guys can do it. if they go as long as Willie Nelson, we've got another 10-15 years of Starship Trooper....for good or ill. i am interested to hear what these guys sound like with the new jon. i had this idea that i was going to become a yes completest. however, after revisiting some of the late 80s-00s, no way. it's just doesn't hold up. so, i put on Relayer. damn! (fly from here is the best thing they've put out since 90125)
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 12:44 |
zumacraig wrote:
i really wonder how long these guys can do it. i am interested to hear what these guys sound like with the new jon. i had this idea that i was going to become a yes completest. however, after revisiting some of the late 80s-00s, no way. it's just doesn't hold up. so, i put on Relayer. damn! (fly from here is the best thing they've put out since 90125) |
Looks like we are two peas in a pod, you and I.
People have criticised YES for getting old. That is ignorant. YES are about playing music. And they still play(except for Geoff Downes who needs to practice more and do less social media) at unreal levels. Does Steve look old?, sure.
Well, this is not a Justin Bieber production it is actual music. If anybody cares to actually "listen" to what these guys are playing, they will be blown away. Steve does an amazing solo on YIND on Live From Lyon!
I too am anxious to hear Jon Davison, his work on Glass Hammer is clarion & crystal clear. He has the pipes. Do I miss JA, of course I do and when JA & YES stop their little hissy fits, I will be right there as always.
Yes, I do think Fly From Here is their best work since Drama. 90125 was good & popular but it is was over-produced 4 chord verse-chorus-verse. One can hear that style of pop rock only so much, so yeah, I enjoyed 90125, saw YES twice on that tour, but the music does not have much staying power to me now. It seems I can play Drama over and over again, and I still really enjoy it.
I hope YES does a concert DVD with this lineup. It would be great to have Machine Messiah & Fly From Here on video to blast in my living room!
@Chuck: Thanks for the picture.
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 12:59 |
^ I don't criticise Yes for getting old. I criticise them for acting like a bunch of spoilt brats when it comes to lineup farces.
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:23 |
^I don't criticise them at all. Nothing to do with me. Anyway..another photo
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:24 |
^Geoff Downes is wearing a Keith Emerson T-Shirt.
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:25 |
Squire looks like he's up the duff in that one
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:26 |
Trying not to picture Steven Wilson singing for Yes.
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:29 |
I keep thinking Steven Wilson is singing for Yes now based on these photos
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:37 |
lazland wrote:
^ I don't criticise Yes for getting old. I criticise them for acting like a bunch of spoilt brats when it comes to lineup farces. |
Damn pesky Brits,
Do you mean " spoiled"? We Yanks rid ourselves of that old tart the Queen, must we teach her few remaining subects basic verb conjugation as well??? Oy Vey!
Seriously, just to split hairs whith my favorite English Gentleman: Most bands break up over control & money, after only a few years these days. PInk Floyd broke, 32 years ago! So the fact that YES can continue at all in any line-up is really
beating the odds.
By the way, Laz: Do you think the new line-up with Jon Davison is a farce as well? Just curious.
Cheers!
DM
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:45 |
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^Geoff Downes is wearing a Keith Emerson T-Shirt. |
Too bad Geoff doesn't seem to be able to play even "half" as good as KE.
I loved Drama when it came out and I still do. I saw Benoit David YES twice to see Machine Messiah live, but
in recent live concerts w/YES Downes has been embarassingly pathetic. There is a video of Downes playing HOTS, he ruins it so bad that Steve Howe screams: NO! NO! NO! during the live show! It seems like Downes is lost
on keyboards if he is not playing basic 4/4 music like he does in Asia. Does Downes in YES drive anybody else crazy?
I don't think Downes is taking his role is YES serious at all. He sees himself as some famous rock star, so he doesn't think he needs to practice anymore...
Oh no, now I am bashing YES, like that guy Laz....
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:49 |
Wow, I am behind on the times. Did they get rid of the other guy already? Fly From Here wasn't terrible... wasn't great though.
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:53 |
Dennis, you didn't ask me, but I think it's been a farce for quite some time. Even before Jon (the original one) left. Now it's become parody.
Having said that, I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt all the way up through 2004 or so. After that, I just hear a band going through the motions. The new album is well recorded and performed, I suppose, but it's a bit "smooth prog" (like smooth jazz). I think geriatric prog was my personal thought while listening to it. Sure there are some lovely parts even so, and Howe's solo on the last track is every bit as good as some of his older ones, but as a whole it just seems very sleepy and slow. And it's not even written by actual members of Yes! (well, they had to get Geoff back in just so they could pretend it was a Yes album and not a Buggles album)
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:56 |
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At first I thought this was a picture of Yes with Steven Wilson. That hair and girlish figure.
Edit: Beaten by darkshade.
Edited by Harry Hood - March 27 2012 at 13:58
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dennismoore
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Posted: March 27 2012 at 14:12 |
infandous wrote:
Dennis, you didn't ask me, but I think it's been a farce for quite some time. Even before Jon (the original one) left. Now it's become parody.
Having said that, I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt all the way up through 2004 or so. After that, I just hear a band going through the motions. The new album is well recorded and performed, I suppose, but it's a bit "smooth prog" (like smooth jazz). I think geriatric prog was my personal thought while listening to it. Sure there are some lovely parts even so, and Howe's solo on the last track is every bit as good as some of his older ones, but as a whole it just seems very sleepy and slow. And it's not even written by actual members of Yes! (well, they had to get Geoff back in just so they could pretend it was a Yes album and not a Buggles album)
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I can't argue with a lot of what you are saying.
I have seen all the YES tours in the 2000s and I was shocked why YES repeated the same exact setlist on back to back tours, (the last two that Jon Anderson did with them) YES made this fatal mistake in 1978 & 1979 and the band split soon after. I thought that all the prior YES tours from 1996 reunion were great, Masterworks, heck even the Billy-Goat Tour! And then Rick came back and they did 2 tours with different set lists, they were great! But yeah, when I saw JA in YES with the same exact set list on the next year's tour, I felt like YES was spent and I was a sucker for buying that ticket.
That was YES' last tour with JA.
On Fly From Here, I do enjoy it(The title suite & last song) but it is sad that Squire & Howe had to rely on a 30 year old idea from a Buggle to make an album. Chris & Steve can not write anymore??? WTF???
But I do have a hidden agenda with YES. Their classic songs, YESSONGS era, suck on video, cause the technology
of the day. So I would like to see as much YES live, in high definition, for future enjoyment. I have in high definition:
YES Symphonic & The 35th Anniversary and all the other recent releases and they are awesome!!!!!
I know you will get your 5.1 setup going and you will know what I mean.
Having RUSH R30 and Time Machine in high-def is priceless to me. Is Geddy Lee's voice kinda gone? Sure, but there are no hi-fi concert vids of the classic era Rush, so I will glady take & pay for what bands like YES & RUSH can put out(they have proven it can be at a high level)
Yeah, Fly from Here was a bit over produced and does not sound at all organic or natural, but everything today is overproduced and cut & pasted, in general.
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