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sarge
Forum Groupie Joined: August 09 2010 Location: South Australia Status: Offline Points: 49 |
Topic: Australian Progressive Rock Scene Posted: March 25 2012 at 04:42 |
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Hey guys,
Did ya hear? It's out with the new and in with the old!!! www.facebook.com/ProgressiveRockAdelaide Lovers of old prog and musicians playing prog the way it should* be played, Australian or not, join up and get a scene going!!! *by this I mean the exclusion of lame subgenres (sorry) such as: post-metal, math-rock, ambient, industrial and progressive metal
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Fairieswearboots
Forum Newbie Joined: March 10 2012 Location: adelaide Status: Offline Points: 3 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 04:46 | |
it would be great if everyone could join so the scene could finally run networks that dont involve alias and irrelevant garbage
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 05:10 | |
Ha, I love how honest this is lol!
While I do believe there are a number of decent progressive/metal bands around, I've been let down over and over hearing about a `great new Australian progressive rock band' only to find they're an `interesting' metal band at best. I kind of feel a few Aussie metal bands have hijacked the word `prog'! :) I don't mean that they're no good, just not what I want to listen to if I go to see a `prog' band live. Give me Unitopia, Myriad (loved their first EP from many years ago), Windchase/Sebastian Hardie (also got a great new album out!) any day! :) Would love to seem some `proper' progressive rock bands play in Melbourne soon! Would definately support them! |
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Wotgorilla
Forum Groupie Joined: October 07 2006 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 55 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 06:55 | |
Does anyone know who's playing as the support for Yes at the Palais on 11 April? I was hoping it might be Unitopia, I missed their show here in Melbourne last September (clashed with the AFL Preliminary Final, alas the Hawks went down).
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frippism
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 27 2010 Location: Tel Aviv Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 08:17 | |
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Why do you write "should"- are you the ultimate authority on what's prog, and what it should sound like? And you're literally saying nothing when you accuse entire sub-genres as not how prog should sound. And come to the think about it, I know no Australian bands.
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There be dragons
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irrelevant
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 07 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 13382 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 10:04 | |
YEAH! Every new prog band should sound exactly the same as the ones from the 70's anyway!
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frippism
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Posted: March 25 2012 at 10:30 | |
^ *high five*
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There be dragons
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frippism
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Posted: March 25 2012 at 10:30 | |
*in a sarcastic manner*
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There be dragons
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irrelevant
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 07 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 13382 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 10:35 | |
^ Definitely.
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irrelevant
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 07 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 13382 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 10:44 | |
Here you go : |
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andrea
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 2064 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 10:47 | |
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dreadpirateroberts
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2011 Location: AU Status: Offline Points: 952 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 15:55 | |
Feel ashamed that I'm Australian after reading the OP. Lame? Oh dear.
Dimissing a host of sub-genres as part of your recruitment drive seems a lowly move sure to encourage thoughtful, open-minded members. Edited by dreadpirateroberts - March 25 2012 at 16:00 |
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 16:05 | |
Hey Irrelevant!
I had no idea that Ayers Rock band was a prog band! I've come across that album once in a while and dismissed it, thinking it was straight-forward commercial rock! I've heard very positive things about that Ben Craven album! Seems to be getting a lot of good buzz....I'll have to look into it :) Wotgorilla! I was hoping the Yes support act might be Unitopia as well, would make perfect sense. I DID go to the Melbourne show back in September, and only about 30 people hung around for it. Pretty disappointing. They were great, of course! |
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Quirky Turkey
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 17 2011 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 177 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 16:13 | |
What about Anubis? Also I'm seeing Yes at the Palais. Can't wait!
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 16:21 | |
Hey Quirky Turkey!
Anubis played at the Unitopia show in September as well, but for some strange reason they went on stage at 7pm!! I mean, I think most people wouldn't have even got to the show by that stage. My friend and I got there at 8:30pm, assuming they would play right before Unitopia. Disappointed to not see them. I've briefly heard their most recent album, and it sounded quite promising :) |
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sarge
Forum Groupie Joined: August 09 2010 Location: South Australia Status: Offline Points: 49 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 20:14 | |
The post has nothing to do with the Australian prog music scene. Its about creating a prog scene in Australia by promoting NEW bands and events that are progressive rock in the more 'traditional' sense.
Maybe 'should' was a poor choice...but I feel that for prog to get back on track (and again, this is in MY vision) some of us need to be a bit elitist. |
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sarge
Forum Groupie Joined: August 09 2010 Location: South Australia Status: Offline Points: 49 |
Posted: March 25 2012 at 20:22 | |
I feel ashamed that I'm Australian when I see how rude and unattractive most Australians are when I'm forced to walk through the city. My 'recruitment drive' is to attract people that are open minded and passionate but feel that the current scene is not for them and have greater appeal to the way prog used to look and sound. I really don't think that's so far-fetched, it's just a bit wishful...apparently.
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frippism
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 27 2010 Location: Tel Aviv Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
Posted: March 26 2012 at 00:58 | |
Well no it really didn't have anything to do with the Australian prog scene. It had more to do with the fact that you just went ahead and dismissed entire sub-genres, which is silly, because sub-genres in their essence, are inaccurate and unnecessarily categorize things. Post-rock, metal, can also sound traditional.
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sarge
Forum Groupie Joined: August 09 2010 Location: South Australia Status: Offline Points: 49 |
Posted: March 26 2012 at 01:40 | |
Of course, bands often put into those sub-genres can sound traditional, however that's not my point. Many of the bands in those sub-genres do fit their label and I will not hesitate to dismiss them in my endeavours because: 1) Progressive elements that have been implemented into modern music is not my idea of prog rock 2) Most of those sub-genres tend to have a scene of their own already, whereas my idea of traditional prog is left to a few small circles of old purists it seems... By 'traditional prog' I refer to the sound created by the greats (Pink Floyd, Genesis, PFM, ELP, King Crimson, Nektar, Camel...etc) as well as by the some of the more obscure bands of the time (VDGG, Gryphon, Spyrogyra, Gong...). And sure, some new bands may proclaim to take great influence from these bands but for some reason it's never quite produces that familiar feeling as with traditional prog. Whether its the lyrics or the production or the fashions or the live shows or the music itself...something is always missing.
I can honestly say that it's not just because of the time period we live in because that is such crap. If 'traditional prog' resonates with your lifestyle (for me that's the simple farm life) and you can play an instrument with ease then there should be nothing stopping you from creating that feeling that bands once made. Sure, the development of the music is cool and whatever...but where prog has gone is not for me (or my close group of friends) and hopefully for other people out there who wish to create a scene for enthusiasts and musicians. |
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dreadpirateroberts
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2011 Location: AU Status: Offline Points: 952 |
Posted: March 26 2012 at 01:40 | |
I still I don't feel that 'open-minded' equates directly to what you've said you're looking for, but you phrase what you're after far less offensively here in your reply than in your opening post. Hopefully you can get the folks you're after, just take it easy on the instant dismissal stuff I guess. |
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