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One of my tracks:
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Points: 3126 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2012 at 18:41
One way to keep good even time with "Sprinkling of Clouds" is to count it ...1,2,3,4,5,- 1,2,3,4,5,-.1.2.3.4.5,- 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, and then repeat. Wait for the high-hat to begin.
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Gentle Giant - Cogs in Cogs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cifBpc3r-tQ One of my favourites! Smile In the middle section, the two vocal parts are in different meters. The first part to enter ("The circle turns around, the changing voices calling...") is in 6/4, but the second one ("Circle turns around the changing voices") is in 15/8. This means that the two melodies "line up" differently in five different ways. The phrases "meet" every 60 eighth notes.
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Originally posted by megablasterzoid megablasterzoid wrote:

Gentle Giant - Cogs in Cogs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cifBpc3r-tQ One of my favourites! Smile In the middle section, the two vocal parts are in different meters. The first part to enter ("The circle turns around, the changing voices calling...") is in 6/4, but the second one ("Circle turns around the changing voices") is in 15/8. This means that the two melodies "line up" differently in five different ways. The phrases "meet" every 60 eighth notes.


Lovely! other notable polyrithmies:

-Obviously Total Mass Retain, with guitar and voice playing in the old same 3/4 and drums'n'bass in 4/4

And then, well, the serious staff <3
http://jeanlouis.bandcamp.com/track/zakir-2
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That Jean Louis track is superb! Good stuff
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I love odd time sigs, but when using them in a song you have to be careful not to get self-indulgent(sometimes they sound unnatural and pointlessly confusing)  .  
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Supposedly, Dave Kerman's said the first part is in 53/32. I'm not very good at counting to 53 in 32nd notes in prog, so I can't verify that. LOL
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I'm playing a piece for school that is a lot of 9/8 and 12/8 alternating.  However it isn't consistent alternation so it isn't 21/8. 
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I just have to recomend "Pie in the Sky" av Vaiping just listen to it if you can
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Seeing as how common 4/4 is on the radio here in America I think even if it's in 3 or has time signature CHANGES or polyrhythms it's "odd."
 
However, in the prog world, 3/4, 6/8, 12/8 are not odd at all of course.
 
Math Rock is insane of course, as is tech/extreme prog metal and jazz fusion. I love Tool though, for example, in Jambi, I believe Adam is 9/8, Justin in 6/8, and Danny in several :P, and that's just the intro! A Perfect Circle has some good ones, or tiny little sections, like in The Outsider. Or that perfect shift from 7/4 to 6/8 in Gravity, it makes you feel like you're defying gravity.
 
Mars Volta are ridiculous.

Also, Freewill, Limelight, Time Stand Still, Red Barchetta, Tom Sawyer and Spirit of Radio are all ridiculously awesome for utilizing odd times and making them radio accessible. And not only odd times, but random bars of odd times. For example, in Tom Sawyer there is one bar of 13/16 and one 15/16.

Does anyone know what Anesthetize is in? 23/16 right?

Mars Volta are pretty unique too. In Inertiatic ESP that bridge is primarily in 7/4 but I think they add or remove a beat here and there. Copernicus has like no time :P
 
Frank Zappa deserves a mention.
 
Meshuggah are insane for polyrhythms. Pain of Salvation uses some fun ones. Between the Buried and Me are also ridiculously insane.
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About Here Comes the Sun, I believe the bridge is in 26/8, or 11/8+4/4+ 7/8

 
The Beatles were totally prog! Love them.
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Oh boy, the intro to Firth of Fifth is delicious as well. The Dance of Eternity is more like the Dance of insanity. The Incident by PT, the last three songs are full of changes and somewhere on there is this delicious crushing 5/8 bit.
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Points: 34083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2012 at 10:18
not prog but Soundgarden is pretty insane when it comes to odd-time-sigs, i bet each album (5) have songs, almost 70% of the songs on a Soundgarden album inherit ether a bar of odd-time sigs or more offen a hole songs with different time sigs, i thnk in a hole Soundgarden album it is rarer to find songs with straight 4/4 them an odd time sig, use of 9/8 is common, and so is 5/4 and 6/8, 12/8, and even some polo-rythems and axperimental syncopation







this song have a 22/4 second half of the song


this is in 9/8
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Odd time signatures are cool, but should not be used pointlessly.  Try not to say, "I'm going to write a song in an odd time signature," but rather, "The song I'm writing requires the use of an odd time signature," or something to that extent.  Either way, melodic and rhythmic ideas should come from the heart more than the head.

Edited by peart_lee_lifeson - March 23 2012 at 10:49
PROG ON!!!
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Points: 13382 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2012 at 10:52
Originally posted by peart_lee_lifeson peart_lee_lifeson wrote:

Odd time signatures are cool, but should not be used pointlessly.  Try not to say, "I'm going to write a song in an odd time signature," but rather, "The song I'm writing requires the use of an odd time signature," or something to that extent.  Either way, melodic and rhythmic ideas should come from the heart more than the head.

I agree. 
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Points: 445 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2012 at 11:40
Why haven't I seen this thread before?
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