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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2012 at 23:52
Originally posted by The Onion The Onion wrote:

Rick Santorum Relieved No One Has Asked Him About Interracial Marriage Yet

LAFAYETTE, LA—Saying his campaign has "really dodged a bullet so far," Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum told reporters today that, much to his relief, no one has asked his opinion on interracial marriage. "No question about it, what I’d have to say about the topic would absolutely terrify anyone with a conscience," said Santorum, adding that his longstanding and carefully thought-through views on whether two individuals of different races should be allowed to marry would put him so far out of the mainstream that it’d be "hilarious how insane [he]’d sound." "The truth is, if anyone decided to ask me flat out if I approve of marriages between black men and white women, for example, the flood gates would open and the bile I would spew would sink this campaign in 10 seconds tops." As of press time, reports of Santorum’s mere reference to his incendiary views had caused his favorability ratings in Alabama and Mississippi to skyrocket.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 03:11
Well, the Santorum wins are a nice slap in face of Newt. LOL  I'm sorry I really don't like him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 03:22
 ^ I know, I can't stand Santorum's politics but I'd rather hang out with him, Newt's just a pain
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 03:49
How Republicans Screwed Themselves With Their Own Proportional-Delegate Trap

"Republicans are in a bruising primary struggle with no candidate close to the 1,144 delegates needed to win the nomination, and leaving aside the advent of super PACS, they did it to themselves by adopting a proportional-delegate rule in 2010.


In the Talking Heads’ song “Once in a Lifetime” there is a moment when lead singer David Byrne awkwardly belts out a question: “How did I get here?”

That’s the question Republicans should be asking themselves right now. Facing a vulnerable incumbent, they find themselves with a weak field trapped in a bruising primary and no clear end in sight. It is a trap of their own making, a product of an innocent-sounding RNC rules change and a Supreme Court ruling.

Proportional delegates and super PACs are two innovations that are intersecting to make this primary season unlike any other. So don’t reach for precedent to understand the present nomination fight—because new rules apply."...




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 07:31
Newt never had any chance. Staying around solely to be a thorn in Romney's side and is living in a fantasy world.
Why would anyone vote for him when you got another real conservative in Santorum that's actually likable? (we all hate him for being a loon of course but we're 20 people on the internet). It's honestly appalling he's had ANY success.

That article is kind of silly Slart, because I'd say proportional voting is a good thing. I win with 36% you get 35% but I win 50 delegates and 0 for you? Seems pretty unfair. That one guy said it "5 states chose the Presidency"
Proportional is the right way to go, this mess is happening because people are actually voting out of principleShocked
They're saying "f**k Romney. We hate this guy" and actually putting their ideology forward. Only 22% of voters in AL or MS said Santorum would beat Obama yet he won? Seems like a lot of people don't even care that he'd lose to Obama.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 08:14
I find it really hard to believe that people, outside of PA, are being fooled by Frothy but then I remember the ignorance of the average voter.  Santo really has no redeeming qualities.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 08:26
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

I find it really hard to believe that people, outside of PA, are being fooled by Frothy but then I remember the ignorance of the average voter.  Santo really has no redeeming qualities.


Uh yeaaaah, it does seem quite evident that people outside PA are going for it. LOL
You are indeed forgetting what many people want out there.
Also let's not be dicks, just because it's not our opinion shouldn't invalidate it. I think it's awesome people are choosing to vote with what they want, and not just who's been established as the frontrunner.

The GOP deep down knows they're doomed anyway, few I've talked to have any enthusiasm at the moment. I'd wager many feel the same. Especially Romney being a Democrat...might as well vote with your ideals. The problem is Rick's ideals are horrifying and terrible of course but that's what we got.

It cracks me up to no end people I knew who laughed at Romney now "support" him and try their best not to vomit when talking about it.

When I point it "Obamacare" is a large "Romneycare" yet he talks about repealing "Obamacare" they just don't respondLOL I love this utter disrepair the GOP is in.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 11:46
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

That article is kind of silly Slart, because I'd say proportional voting is a good thing. I win with 36% you get 35% but I win 50 delegates and 0 for you? Seems pretty unfair. That one guy said it "5 states chose the Presidency"

I'm actually supportive of proportional representation in other elections, so I don't entirely agree with the premise that it's a bad thing though it's interesting that by implementing it for their primary they are dragging out the race and possibly damaging themselves.  But I think it would be an improvement for everyone to have to have brokered conventions so they aren't just a ridiculous waste of time and money. LOL

The article also talks about how super pacs have changed the rules of the game.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 18:08
"The best kind of political cartoon...one that makes absolutely no sense"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 18:11
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

That article is kind of silly Slart, because I'd say proportional voting is a good thing. I win with 36% you get 35% but I win 50 delegates and 0 for you? Seems pretty unfair. That one guy said it "5 states chose the Presidency"

I'm actually supportive of proportional representation in other elections, so I don't entirely agree with the premise that it's a bad thing though it's interesting that by implementing it for their primary they are dragging out the race and possibly damaging themselves.  But I think it would be an improvement for everyone to have to have brokered conventions so they aren't just a ridiculous waste of time and money. LOL

The article also talks about how super pacs have changed the rules of the game.


Quite right. Hey Romney was "inevitable" people were sticking around just to "be a thorn" or had "delusions of grandeur"
Well.....looking now like the only inevitable thing is a split convention, and maybe Rick and Newt aren't too dumb after all (politically). Could have some brokering power at the convention now, maybe force Romney to pick one as VP? If there's enough anti Romney votes maybe even have a Santorum/Gingrich ticket!? Shocked Now THAT would be the most horrifying presidential ticket maybe ever.

Oh, and the point IS right...proportional voting has made this mess much more than it could've been (aided by how weak Romney is) but I can't tell if the article is merely observing or blaming...because proportional is a good thing in my mind.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 20:51
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

"The best kind of political cartoon...one that makes absolutely no sense"

(Quote and drawing done personally by a friend of mine)



Now that's a good one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 21:38
Who the hell is that, Ron Paul? You know it is a bad cartoon when you recognize the gigantic lizard/dragon (from the best video game ever) and you can't tell whether he's high-five-ing Bush or Paul or maybe even Mario hinself after he retired and got a sales job.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 22:28

I attended a town hall for congressional candidate Evan Feinberg earlier and it was just mindboggling.  He nearly echoed Ron Paul on everything while a room full of republicans nodded, applauded, then even took to the mic during the Q&A period and sounded like Paul themselves (INCLUDING THE NEED TO GET RID OF THOSE WHO VOTE AWAY LIBERTIES AND FOR NDAA) with their questions yet..... when the doors open they funnel out and snap right back into "it doesn't matter who it is as long as we get rid of Obama" and "you know, I like Santorum" (Feinberg, btw, pointed to Santorum's feeble debate defense of his vote for No Child Left Behind as an example of what's wrong with politics during his remarks).  Don't know whether I should feel slightly uplifted that the rank and file seem to be coming around on some key issues but right now I'm just frustrated and tired.  Hopefully Evan gets past Tim Murphy in the primary and can join Justin Amash, in trying to fill the Paul void, in the House this fall. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2012 at 22:40
The media is starting the show of shoving the supposed increase in new jobs added and lower unemployment numbers down our throat. No analysis is ever made of how the numbers and statistics are obtained and what do they really mean, but the headlines remain. And with the economy argument lost to the GOP, we can be sure very soon that Obama is going to be our Leader for a long time. Unless Santorum's religious crusaders succeed in kicking this new Saladin out of Holy Land...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 04:53
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

The media is starting the show of shoving the supposed increase in new jobs added and lower unemployment numbers down our throat. No analysis is ever made of how the numbers and statistics are obtained and what do they really mean, but the headlines remain. And with the economy argument lost to the GOP, we can be sure very soon that Obama is going to be our Leader for a long time. Unless Santorum's religious crusaders succeed in kicking this new Saladin out of Holy Land...

Well, when a republican is president and the trot out improving unemployment numbers, the numbers really don't reflect the real unemployment rate, but when a democrat is president, they are totally accurate. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 14:20
I remember stating, during the SOPA debate, that internet pornography was the ignored issue and that were it to be shut off that suicide/murder rateds would skyrocket.  Now, leave it to noted pile of sh*t Rick Santorum to want to start a war on pornography:
 
"Obscenity laws" in 2012?  Are you f**king kidding me?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:12
^Calm down MoM. You have to understand. Santorum hasn't realized we're in 2012...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:19
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

I remember stating, during the SOPA debate, that internet pornography was the ignored issue and that were it to be shut off that suicide/murder rateds would skyrocket.

Internet porn doesn't keep people from suicide/murder.  It just creates another avenue for people to enjoy porn. Wink
I would make the case that porn does give potential rapists another outlet - masturbation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:07
Why not? It was Santorum who said we do not have a right to privacy...even in the bedroom.
Also that, naturally, Boston (being a beacon of liberalism) was the hot spot for the Catholic Priest abuse scandal (for the holy trifecta of insult!)
After that, can anything he says really surprise us?


Awww Teo you're no fun. I think that is easily identifiable as Ron Paul, and he's high fiving Bowser, what's not to like?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2012 at 02:36
Mom I'd rather you link to the actual statement rather than blogspam. I defended Michelle and them when people misrepresented that silly family values pledge or whatever that they signed, but I am stunned he would directly say that. Doesn't he know that Americans love porn? 
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