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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2012 at 16:36
Forgot about:
The King Is Dead
Road Salt 1 & 2
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2012 at 17:52
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Forgot about:
The King Is Dead
Road Salt 1 & 2

Good choices above. All three are albums I don't like very much.

No one has mentioned Yes's "Fly From Here" which a lot of people dislike very much. I actually love this album and one of the songs of this album which cops a lot of criticism is "The Man You Always Wanted To Be". I actually like this song very much as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2012 at 18:24
I've always liked Who Dunnit? and Illegal Alien and I gave Ummagumma 5 stars.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2012 at 18:55
I'm mostly bound to like things that aren't discussed at all. It's not hated, but rather neglected, and dismissed as something, it could be "one of those albums belonging to their commercial period" or something.
 
I think Camel's "The Single Factor" is a great album, and I really like "You are the one".
 
Anthony Phillips "Invisible Men" is an album with some catchy pop tunes which I like. "Traces" is really nice. My cd is still lying up in the attic somewhere, it was quite a while since I heard it.
 
But the real answer is no, I don't know any song I like which I'm aware to be generally hated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 01:31
I'd like to give a shout out to all the little pop songs H era Marillion did, stuff off Holidays in Eden and Seasons End mostly. Hooks in you, No One Can, Cover My Eyes, Uninvited Guest etc. quite enjoyable to me at times.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 01:42
Another one :
Allways loved "The League of gentlemen", the Fripp 80's poweralbum, and i must be very alone there, allmost impossible to get the album. Cant even bye as MP3 from DGM or anywhere else i guess.
 
David Sylvian in general


Edited by tamijo - January 28 2012 at 01:43
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 04:25
Songs:

Genesis - Whodunnit
Genesis - Man On The Corner
Genesis - Another Record
Yes - Love Will Find A Way
Yes - The Rhythm Of Love
Yes - Lift Me Up
Yes - Saving My Heart

Albums:
Tony Banks: The Fugitive
Tony Banks: Soundtracks
Tony Banks: Bankstatement
Tony Banks: Still
Tony Banks: Seven (A Suite For Orchestra)
Buggles - The Age Of Plastic
Buggles - Adventures In Modern Recording
Camel - The Single Factor
Genesis - Abacab
Genesis - Genesis
Genesis - Invisible Touch
Jon & Vangelis - Short Stories
Jon & Vangelis - Private Collection
Anthony Phillips - Sides
Yes - 90125

I like the following albums as well, but they still get a 3+ rating on PA, so I think they have their fair share of fans after all:
Asia - Asia
Genesis - And Then There Were Three
Genesis - Duke

EDIT: I forgot Jon & Vangelis, but I saw them in Lazland's list, and I thought I ought to add them as well


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 04:42
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Another one :
Allways loved "The League of gentlemen", the Fripp 80's poweralbum, and i must be very alone there, allmost impossible to get the album. Cant even bye as MP3 from DGM or anywhere else i guess.
 
David Sylvian in general


Yep, an unjustly neglected album that I used to own on vinyl but have been unable to unearth on CD. In places it sounds like the closest we will ever hear to the non sequitur Prog-Punk Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 04:56
Albums:

The Decemberists - The King Is Dead
The Mars Volta - The Bedlam In Goliath
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
Rush - Presto
Pendragon - Kowtow


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 05:01
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Tool : 10.000 days , my favorite tool, many seems to dislike it, or at least not regard as high as the 2 albums before.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 06:05
I LOVE Orthrelm's "OV"- but I can totally understand why most people who'd listen to it will despise it- shrieking riffs, a almost unbearable amount of repetition. I don't know why but I just love it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 07:17
Yes - 90125 - great album really yet so despised here

Kayo Dot - Coyote - rave reviews on here but I cant stand it.  

Genesis - Duke - its not as bad as people are saying.

Bjork - Medulla - so many praise this lame excuse for music.

ELP - Love Beach.... no I really hate that one

Rush - Presto - their worst album ever without any question yet some hail it as a masterpiece....

Tangerine Dream - Phaedra - I dont know why people like this so much as its their worst album. But I am not into that style.

Yes - Fly From Here - a very good return from the band. Not to be criticised so harshly.

Rush - Snakes and Arrows - so many love this but it was a real disappointment, hardly any prog on it at all.

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Yes - Owner of a lonely heart - just an awesome song bringing their music to my ears for the first time

All Indo Raga - none of it appeals to me

Captain Beefheart - a legend here but the music is terrible overall



OK flame away


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 10:09
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Yes - 90125 - great album really yet so despised here never heard

Kayo Dot - Coyote - rave reviews on here but I cant stand it.  I rather enjoy this

Genesis - Duke - its not as bad as people are saying. Very good pop/rock album

Bjork - Medulla - so many praise this lame excuse for music. Yep, tantamount to Iceland's national debt (but I loved the Sugar Cubes)

ELP - Love Beach.... no I really hate that one more than half is decent but uninspired

Rush - Presto - their worst album ever without any question yet some hail it as a masterpiece.... never heard

Tangerine Dream - Phaedra - I dont know why people like this so much as its their worst album. But I am not into that style. stoned german hippies was never a spectator sport (I saw them live/awake)

Yes - Fly From Here - a very good return from the band. Not to be criticised so harshly. never heard

Rush - Snakes and Arrows - so many love this but it was a real disappointment, hardly any prog on it at all. never heard

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Yes - Owner of a lonely heart - just an awesome song bringing their music to my ears for the first time would you buy Foxtrot after hearing You Can't Hurry Love?

All Indo Raga - none of it appeals to me Yep, stoned Indian wannabes was never a spectator sport

Captain Beefheart - a legend here but the music is terrible overall there are sections of Trout Mask Replica that are brilliant but otherwise yep, a charlatan



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 10:18
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Yes - 90125 - great album really yet so despised here

Kayo Dot - Coyote - rave reviews on here but I cant stand it.  I wouldn't call them rave reviews- a lot of people, myself included, seem to like it a lot. But there are quite a few that I heard really dislike it.

Captain Beefheart - a legend here but the music is terrible overall Beefheart is king!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 10:29
Medulla is freakin' incredible.  
...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 10:48
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Yes - 90125 - great album really yet so despised here never heard

Kayo Dot - Coyote - rave reviews on here but I cant stand it.  I rather enjoy this

Genesis - Duke - its not as bad as people are saying. Very good pop/rock album

Bjork - Medulla - so many praise this lame excuse for music. Yep, tantamount to Iceland's national debt (but I loved the Sugar Cubes)

ELP - Love Beach.... no I really hate that one more than half is decent but uninspired

Rush - Presto - their worst album ever without any question yet some hail it as a masterpiece.... never heard

Tangerine Dream - Phaedra - I dont know why people like this so much as its their worst album. But I am not into that style. stoned german hippies was never a spectator sport (I saw them live/awake)

Yes - Fly From Here - a very good return from the band. Not to be criticised so harshly. never heard

Rush - Snakes and Arrows - so many love this but it was a real disappointment, hardly any prog on it at all. never heard

songs

Yes - Owner of a lonely heart - just an awesome song bringing their music to my ears for the first time would you buy Foxtrot after hearing You Can't Hurry Love?

All Indo Raga - none of it appeals to me Yep, stoned Indian wannabes was never a spectator sport

Captain Beefheart - a legend here but the music is terrible overall there are sections of Trout Mask Replica that are brilliant but otherwise yep, a charlatan



OK flame away


Though we;re getting off-topic, since this is about albums "you" like that most dislike, Scott, re Medulla and Coyote, have you actually listened well to the studio albums? I seem to recall with Medulla that you listened to some youtube tracks, possibly out of order, possibly missing some of the music, and some of it was a live version, and with Coyote it was based ona streaming live version.  I think it's important to listen to a good quality recording (CD, or buy the mp3s etc.) on a decent system, listen in full and in order, and give it multiple spins, and give it time.  I might not like an album when I first play it, then return a  few months later and love it -- depends on my mood, and if there are distractions.... I like to "live" with albums, and I play albums I get many times.  There have been a few cases where I got an album and never played it again (Spock's Beard Snow for instance), but I wouldn't review those as I never gave it a chance to fully absorb the music and appreciate it.

As for Indo Prog/ Raga Rock, there's a quite a bit I like, but  I love Mixtus Orbis.  That is my favourite album that is top rated in its category.  If you can't appreciate it, dunno if you have heard the album (there's a poor quality youtube track up, but that doesn't do it) and what we like isn't a matter of what's good, but taste anyway.  There's high quality musicianship -- not stoned Indian wannabes, to use Iain's turn of phrase.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 11:02
^ Ok I admit that dismissing an entire genre with one glib phrase was regrettable and I do apologise but what little I've heard from Indo/Raga leaves me strenuously unmoved (it's my loss)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 11:45
^ No need to apologise, I took your turn off phrase as glib and in good-humour.  The acid/ stoned hippy culture is important to psych laden music,but in Krautrock and Indo Prog/ Raga Rock there have been musicians composers who come from very respectable, serious musical backgrounds -- studied in music conservatories.  I have commonly found a higher degree of musicianship  in those categories than, say, [I won't say it for fear of insult] (but maybe that's my ears and is not a really worthwhile comment).

I have found albums that I like in every category at PA, though the albums may not be representative of the categories.

I think too many dismissive of a category, and albums, without properly exploring it or giving the material time to absorb and adjust to.  There's often a  learning curve when it comes to the appreciation of music, I think, and I think when some people review a lot, they don't give music the time that is necessary to have, or feel, deep insight when it comes to the music. 

Although youtube tracks are highly hardly [late edit for silly mistake] ideal for listening (and, incidentally, terrible for reviewing) -- I believe in listening to whole albums in good quality, and giving the music time to really sink in, some might enjoy these:






The first clip is in Indo Prog/ Raga Rock off the most popular album, and the second is in Krautrock and only has an average rating of 2.32 with six ratings, but I love it.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 12:00
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:

Maybe Dream Theater's Octavarium which I see as highly underrated here. 

Not underrated...a bad album.


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Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:


I'm not sure but I think I'm one of the few people that think Blue Lambency Downward is Kayo Dot's best album.



It's probably my "least favourite" Kayo Dot which still puts it at ~5*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 12:04
Originally posted by wilmon91 wilmon91 wrote:

I think Camel's "The Single Factor" is a great album, and I really like "You are the one".


I have a lot of affection for that album too.  I was 12 years old and Camel was my first concert, and it was the tour in support of that album.  I had already been a fan for a couple of years, so it was a real treat.  I'm glad they released a show from that tour on the "On the Road" series, even though it's clearly not the band at its peak.  But it's good.
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