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    Posted: January 26 2012 at 02:38
Title: Does Brain Damage strike you as being particularly Beatles-esque?
 
I was reading a Dark Side review and stumbled upon the opinion that "Brain Damage" was a Beatles-esque track.
 
Never thought of it that way.
 
But now that I think about it, it feels so true.
 
Thoughts? Out of all the popular Floyd tracks, does "Brain Damage" stand out as being particularly similar to Beatles' style?
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Points: 9869 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2012 at 10:20
In some ways, the vocal melody of Brain Damage is a bit like "Something".  The footprint of Beatles as such can be felt in a lot of Floyd's work, without being a mere imitation of that band.
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Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

Title: Does Brain Damage strike you as being particularly Beatles-esque?
 
I was reading a Dark Side review and stumbled upon the opinion that "Brain Damage" was a Beatles-esque track.
 
Never thought of it that way.
 
But now that I think about it, it feels so true.
 
Thoughts? Out of all the popular Floyd tracks, does "Brain Damage" stand out as being particularly similar to Beatles' style?
 
The next track "Eclispe" is very similiar to the Beatles "I Want You "She's So Heavy".
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Points: 11420 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 09:43
I guess it's a bit of a stretch, but I can imagine Lennon coming up with something like 'Brain Damage' post Beatles.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 09:50
I don't know about brain damage but a good puff on a doobie is Beatle-esque.
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Edited by Slartibartfast - January 29 2012 at 06:59
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I don't know about brain damage but a good puff on a doobie is Beatle-esque.
 
HAHAHA ... loved it ...
 
I would suggest that everyone had a taste of "Beatles" in the earlier days, when the work that Syd was doing were, well written and concise pop songs. But I caution that connection as sometimes the only thing that is connecting this might be that it is/was psychedelic -- as it was considered at the time, although there are some times when I hear some of these Syd Barrett things "A Nice Pair" ... and you know what? ... that is NOT psychedelic ... that fits way better into the English group that was known in theater and film as "eccentric". A person with a different point of view!
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Points: 8581 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2012 at 15:12
Actually Brain Damage sure sounds like it was "borrowed" from PFM.

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I think the only connection I can find is that they're both british... melodic rock... and awesome.
It seems that every melodic rock band HAS to be compared to The Beatles.
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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 10:17
Actually it does sound like 'The Sun King' and, as someone mentioned earlier,  'Something'.
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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 10:29
I think a couple of tracks off More feel altogether more Beatlesque - such as Cymbaline and Green is the Colour. Love both of those.
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Points: 130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2012 at 18:09
Beside ''Dear Prudence'', which mean a similiar picking pattern on a D major chord, I don't see how it sounds like the Beatles.

Earlier Floyd sound like the Beatles, i.e.''See Emily Play'' and ''Point Me At The Sky''
If you are looking for something that sound like ''Sun King'' look at Albatross from Fleetwood Mac.

Brain Damage is even better with David Gilmour licks that we hear on Live at Pompeii.


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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Actually Brain Damage sure sounds like it was "borrowed" from PFM.
 
I have to disagree. Two or three similar chords doesn't mean something's borrowed from somewhere. Tonal music - and especially rock, which is one of the most conservative kinds of music - uses same chord processions over and over, and there has to be occasional similarities. We have to look at the whole, and will then find that these two have totally different work identity.
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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2012 at 08:30
^ The general approach sounds pretty similar to me. I mean, the chords and the tempo don't have to be exactly the same. What is it that defines "borrowing", then?
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Points: 514 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2012 at 10:39
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ The general approach sounds pretty similar to me. I mean, the chords and the tempo don't have to be exactly the same. What is it that defines "borrowing", then?

If listened to from the "outside", all rock music has pretty much a similar general approach. As do music of, say, Haydn and Mozart. Yet there are only few who would say that Mozart borrowed his output from Haydn (without paying back).

To me, borrowing something in music is quite much the same as making a quotation.
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Points: 5154 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2012 at 13:28
Apart from the different sound, in terms of composition yes, I think if the song would have appeared in some late Beatles album (with Beatles sound and vocals) it would have perfectly fitted and would not have surprised anybody.
 
One of those many PF songs that show that a significant part of their talent consisted in being able to make some relatively simple music and yet making it sound great and appealing to lovers of prog rock. Something that the Beatles shared.
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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2012 at 13:35
^ Well, if these are facts, then, I guess, I got my facts straight.
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