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Posted: January 27 2012 at 17:52
tamijo wrote:
Forgot about:
The King Is Dead
Road Salt 1 & 2
Good choices above. All three are albums I don't like very much.
No one has mentioned Yes's "Fly From Here" which a lot of people dislike very much. I actually love this album and one of the songs of this album which cops a lot of criticism is "The Man You Always Wanted To Be". I actually like this song very much as well.
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Posted: January 27 2012 at 18:55
I'm mostly bound to like things that aren't discussed at all. It's not hated, but rather neglected, and dismissed as something, it could be "one of those albums belonging to their commercial period" or something.
I think Camel's "The Single Factor" is a great album, and I really like "You are the one".
Anthony Phillips "Invisible Men" is an album with some catchy pop tunes which I like. "Traces" is really nice. My cd is still lying up in the attic somewhere, it was quite a while since I heard it.
But the real answer is no, I don't know any song I like which I'm aware to be generally hated.
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Posted: January 28 2012 at 01:31
I'd like to give a shout out to all the little pop songs H era Marillion did, stuff off Holidays in Eden and Seasons End mostly. Hooks in you, No One Can, Cover My Eyes, Uninvited Guest etc. quite enjoyable to me at times.
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Posted: January 28 2012 at 01:42
Another one :
Allways loved "The League of gentlemen", the Fripp 80's poweralbum, and i must be very alone there, allmost impossible to get the album. Cant even bye as MP3 from DGM or anywhere else i guess.
David Sylvian in general
Edited by tamijo - January 28 2012 at 01:43
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Posted: January 28 2012 at 04:25
Songs:
Genesis - Whodunnit Genesis - Man On The Corner Genesis - Another Record Yes - Love Will Find A Way Yes - The Rhythm Of Love Yes - Lift Me Up Yes - Saving My Heart
Albums: Tony Banks: The Fugitive Tony Banks: Soundtracks Tony Banks: Bankstatement Tony Banks: Still Tony Banks: Seven (A Suite For Orchestra) Buggles - The Age Of Plastic Buggles - Adventures In Modern Recording Camel - The Single Factor Genesis - Abacab
Genesis - Genesis
Genesis - Invisible Touch Jon & Vangelis - Short Stories Jon & Vangelis - Private Collection Anthony Phillips - Sides
Yes - 90125
I like the following albums as well, but they still get a 3+ rating on PA, so I think they have their fair share of fans after all: Asia - Asia Genesis - And Then There Were Three Genesis - Duke
EDIT: I forgot Jon & Vangelis, but I saw them in Lazland's list, and I thought I ought to add them as well
Allways loved "The League of gentlemen", the Fripp 80's poweralbum, and i must be very alone there, allmost impossible to get the album. Cant even bye as MP3 from DGM or anywhere else i guess.
David Sylvian in general
Yep, an unjustly neglected album that I used to own on vinyl but have been unable to unearth on CD. In places it sounds like the closest we will ever hear to the non sequitur Prog-Punk
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Posted: January 28 2012 at 06:05
I LOVE Orthrelm's "OV"- but I can totally understand why most people who'd listen to it will despise it- shrieking riffs, a almost unbearable amount of repetition. I don't know why but I just love it.
Yes - 90125 - great album really yet so despised here never heard
Kayo Dot - Coyote - rave reviews on here but I cant stand it. I rather enjoy this
Genesis - Duke - its not as bad as people are saying. Very good pop/rock album
Bjork - Medulla - so many praise this lame excuse for music. Yep, tantamount to Iceland's national debt (but I loved the Sugar Cubes)
ELP - Love Beach.... no I really hate that one more than half is decent but uninspired
Rush - Presto - their worst album ever without any question yet some hail it as a masterpiece.... never heard
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra - I dont know why people like this so much as its their worst album. But I am not into that style. stoned german hippies was never a spectator sport(I saw them live/awake)
Yes - Fly From Here - a very good return from the band. Not to be criticised so harshly. never heard
Rush - Snakes and Arrows - so many love this but it was a real disappointment, hardly any prog on it at all. never heard
songs
Yes - Owner of a lonely heart - just an awesome song bringing their music to my ears for the first time would you buy Foxtrot after hearing You Can't Hurry Love?
All Indo Raga - none of it appeals to me Yep, stoned Indian wannabes was never a spectator sport
Captain Beefheart - a legend here but the music is terrible overall there are sections of Trout Mask Replica that are brilliant but otherwise yep, a charlatan
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Posted: January 28 2012 at 10:18
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Yes - 90125 - great album really yet so despised here
Kayo Dot - Coyote - rave reviews on here but I cant stand it. I wouldn't call them rave reviews- a lot of people, myself included, seem to like it a lot. But there are quite a few that I heard really dislike it.
Captain Beefheart - a legend here but the music is terrible overall Beefheart is king!!
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Posted: January 28 2012 at 10:48
ExittheLemming wrote:
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Yes - 90125 - great album really yet so despised here never heard
Kayo Dot - Coyote - rave reviews on here but I cant stand it. I rather enjoy this
Genesis - Duke - its not as bad as people are saying. Very good pop/rock album
Bjork - Medulla - so many praise this lame excuse for music. Yep, tantamount to Iceland's national debt (but I loved the Sugar Cubes)
ELP - Love Beach.... no I really hate that one more than half is decent but uninspired
Rush - Presto - their worst album ever without any question yet some hail it as a masterpiece.... never heard
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra - I dont know why people like this so much as its their worst album. But I am not into that style. stoned german hippies was never a spectator sport(I saw them live/awake)
Yes - Fly From Here - a very good return from the band. Not to be criticised so harshly. never heard
Rush - Snakes and Arrows - so many love this but it was a real disappointment, hardly any prog on it at all. never heard
songs
Yes - Owner of a lonely heart - just an awesome song bringing their music to my ears for the first time would you buy Foxtrot after hearing You Can't Hurry Love?
All Indo Raga - none of it appeals to me Yep, stoned Indian wannabes was never a spectator sport
Captain Beefheart - a legend here but the music is terrible overall there are sections of Trout Mask Replica that are brilliant but otherwise yep, a charlatan
OK flame away
Though we;re getting off-topic, since this is about albums "you" like
that most dislike, Scott, re Medulla and Coyote, have you actually
listened well to the studio albums? I seem to recall with Medulla that
you listened to some youtube tracks, possibly out of order, possibly
missing some of the music, and some of it was a live version, and with
Coyote it was based ona streaming live version. I think it's important
to listen to a good quality recording (CD, or buy the mp3s etc.) on a
decent system, listen in full and in order, and give it multiple spins,
and give it time. I might not like an album when I first play it, then
return a few months later and love it -- depends on my mood, and if
there are distractions.... I like to "live" with albums, and I play
albums I get many times. There have been a few cases where I got an
album and never played it again (Spock's Beard Snow for instance), but I
wouldn't review those as I never gave it a chance to fully absorb the music and appreciate it.
As for Indo Prog/ Raga Rock, there's a quite a bit I like, but I love
Mixtus Orbis. That is my favourite album that is top rated in its
category. If you can't appreciate it, dunno if you have heard the
album (there's a poor quality youtube track up, but that doesn't do it)
and what we like isn't a matter of what's good, but taste anyway.
There's high quality musicianship -- not stoned Indian wannabes, to use
Iain's turn of phrase.
^ Ok I admit that dismissing an entire genre with one glib phrase was regrettable and I do apologise but what little I've heard from Indo/Raga leaves me strenuously unmoved (it's my loss)
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Posted: January 28 2012 at 11:45
^ No need to apologise, I took your turn off phrase as glib and in good-humour. The acid/ stoned hippy culture is important to psych laden music,but in Krautrock and Indo Prog/ Raga Rock there have been musicians composers who come from very respectable, serious musical backgrounds -- studied in music conservatories. I have commonly found a higher degree of musicianship in those categories than, say, [I won't say it for fear of insult] (but maybe that's my ears and is not a really worthwhile comment).
I have found albums that I like in every category at PA, though the albums may not be representative of the categories.
I think too many dismissive of a category, and albums, without properly exploring it or giving the material time to absorb and adjust to. There's often a learning curve when it comes to the appreciation of music, I think, and I think when some people review a lot, they don't give music the time that is necessary to have, or feel, deep insight when it comes to the music.
Although youtube tracks are highly hardly [late edit for silly mistake] ideal for listening (and, incidentally, terrible for reviewing) -- I believe in listening to whole albums in good quality, and giving the music time to really sink in, some might enjoy these:
The first clip is in Indo Prog/ Raga Rock off the most popular album, and the second is in Krautrock and only has an average rating of 2.32 with six ratings, but I love it.
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Posted: January 28 2012 at 12:04
wilmon91 wrote:
I think Camel's "The Single Factor" is a great album, and I really like "You are the one".
I have a lot of affection for that album too. I was 12 years old and Camel was my first concert, and it was the tour in support of that album. I had already been a fan for a couple of years, so it was a real treat. I'm glad they released a show from that tour on the "On the Road" series, even though it's clearly not the band at its peak. But it's good.
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