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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 09:37
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

^ I'm sure with you on that point Dean.  It always amuses me when some people get this somewhat cocky attitude that they've reached the final plateau of Jazz and now look back with muted scorn at the peons who still listen to prog rock. LOL Jazz generally bores me, although I enjoy rock influenced by jazz.  But  I'll take another romp through punk, alt-rock, or start into a classical music phase before I embrace jazz.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 11:18
I have to admit that my forays into jazz have mostly had more success the further from "pure" jazz the music I was listening to was, so I'm on the same page as you guys thus far.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 11:24
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 12:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 16:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 16:50
Any more and I'm going to have to go into a jazz bank and take out a jazz loan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 17:10
I am 49, and started listening to music at 9, and started with prog in my early 20s.
           Luckily, i would say that i am not jaded really about it all-though my experience has always been that of an appreciator of music,  and have had no involvement with the music industry beyond simply that
        I guess socially i am not really part of "the In Crowd" but i don't blame prog for that.
        The fact is that music means a lot more to me than a lot of people i know!
          And my saving grace i think is that my involvement with music has always been totally on my own terms-even when i hear music, i am usually by myself, and i prefer it that way.
           I can say with a straight face that i have never allowed myself to be dictated to by fashion or trends in music, and maybe that is part of the reason why i am not really at odds with anything in the musical sphere
               And i still get excited by it all!Thumbs Up Just as much or even more than i used to.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 17:31
Jazz and Classical are an alternative to prog. I can still indulge in the music of Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, and Patricia Dallio finding a great interest of "music feel" development within their darker compositions in the modern age. Evident here that it is not my imagination. but the ship to 10XL Yuggoth. There are many great prog bands today that seem to survive the difficulties in crafting their own career and I respect that aspect to the prog world. It's the formula that gets you. If you're a musician that has played Univers Zero pieces since the 80's , you will be sick of it. It is very composed and demands personal practice of scales sometimes prior to mastering the piece. It's interesting to the musician for the development of he/she's own voice. There are good points , but I will investigate more music of Paganini first. A musician/composer who has been written up to have had some contact with the devil. Which he probably did not and was actually somewhat of an oddball musician that wore black.
 It's the formula that will get you. Prog formulas that you play for decades and I believe this has an affect on music fanatics who are not musicians. Sometimes you have to escape prog and travel somewhere else. Then it's just all about enjoying the music. Eloy's Ocean and Pulsar's Halloween were interesting prog albums and I still appreciate the work that went into them. Farfest in October should be a worthwhile experience. Probably an event that will never be repeated. Prog is still interesting to me.    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 17:44
There is just a universe of music: good music I like to listen to, stuff I'm exposed to whether I like it or not, stuff I'm not interested in.   Prog is a major subset of what I like but I really don't care that much about where the boundaries are drawn.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 18:02
Obviously there are those at this site who don't like the jazz, but for those who do, you might want to check out this site's associated jazz site.
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 18:14
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

I am 49, and started listening to music at 9, and started with prog in my early 20s.
           Luckily, i would say that i am not jaded really about it all-though my experience has always been that of an appreciator of music,  and have had no involvement with the music industry beyond simply that
        I guess socially i am not really part of "the In Crowd" but i don't blame prog for that.
        The fact is that music means a lot more to me than a lot of people i know!
          And my saving grace i think is that my involvement with music has always been totally on my own terms-even when i hear music, i am usually by myself, and i prefer it that way.
           I can say with a straight face that i have never allowed myself to be dictated to by fashion or trends in music, and maybe that is part of the reason why i am not really at odds with anything in the musical sphere
               And i still get excited by it all!Thumbs Up Just as much or even more than i used to.
 
Fashion and trends can  destroy a person's ambition and passion. Let's say for example you are a musician/composer who is a bit unknown like Mike Oldfield used to be before he released Tubular Bells. This is for example not an egotistical musician that is out for the count. He is joining forces with the music scene and has a decent amount of fans. That is like saying the artist and the fans joined forces and to hell with what the industry thinks. But these types of artists fight the industry for their royalties so they can have more money to invest their more recent prog project. These people are more tormented by the industry than the commercially designed ones. I don't care what situation you're in, if you have an original prog band, a few cd's on the market, and a small tour lined up....you will get shady deals from the pigs in the industry. It's that easy. All you have to do is get your band on a circuit playing theatres and that's when it all begins. 
 
So what do you find yourself doing to keep your prog band together? Instead of entering the mental hospital you must come up with a master plan. Bingo! Musicians are not suppose to be doing that. Now you will be spending more of your time on the phone with agents than practicing your instrument. This is a distraction from your purpose and all you want to do is release your music and tour. You're not a circus clown getting a make up job from a swine on the staff, you're a musician right? If the industry doesn't make you look like an idiot then they will make you appear as something you are not.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 19:51
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

There is just a universe of music: good music I like to listen to, stuff I'm exposed to whether I like it or not, stuff I'm not interested in.   Prog is a major subset of what I like but I really don't care that much about where the boundaries are drawn.


I'm with you there, boundaries of limited use (ie: cataloging) Dig deep enough into any style of music and most people will find something to like. The best bits are where genres have blurred.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2012 at 19:58
oh yeah, and this
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2012 at 23:29
Surfing theme


 I love it!


hands up who remembers this



actually its not prog is it?




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 14:52

A progger used to feel like the exile from the house of the dead. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 15:42
The irony of this thread is that if you have really lost interest in prog you are most likely not paying attention to this thread or this site.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 15:59
You've outsmarted them all once again, Brian. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2012 at 19:31
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

The irony of this thread is that if you have really lost interest in prog you are most likely not paying attention to this thread or this site.


Ah, very true
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