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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 06:21
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:



On other news, I still can't understand Slarti's last post.
LOL (mission accomplished)Tongue

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

And at 20:03 on January 16, 2012 Slarti hits a new partisan hack low.  Wow, just unbelievably sickening.  Thinking Jim Crow laws were repulsive afronts to liberty is supporting racial discrimination because....well.... Obama's not completely white: I see it all so clearly now.


Hey wait a second, I thought I had already established my credentials as a disingenuous partisan hack. Confused  Oh wait, limbo everybody, how low can you go...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 10:04

It was already well established just not quite as sickening.  We all know you're willing to smear anyone you disagree with politically but you really went above and beyond, this time.  You win the limbo contest that only you were having.  You can now go clean the mud off your clothes.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 10:07
Today there was an article in my area's newspaper where it said that Ron Paul, the "GOP Contrarian", is not electable because if he just did half of what he said he would, he would turn this country upside down. Yes, as if that was such a bad thing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 10:20
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

It was already well established just not quite as sickening.  We all know you're willing to smear anyone you disagree with politically but you really went above and beyond, this time.  You win the limbo contest that only you were having.  You can now go clean the mud off your clothes.


If I've been dealing out smear I have had it returned in kind.

For crying out loud, I can agree with some of what Ron P stands for and you can't agree with a single thing that Obama B does.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 10:59
There's a difference with disagreeing and smearing.  You aren't returning in kind because there's nothing to return.  Also, I could agree with candidate Obama on several key issues (such as closing Gitmo, ending the Patriot Act, ending the wars) but candidate Obama and President Obama are two completely different people.  Someone would have to be a partisan hack to ignore this.  Not only hasn't he closed Gitmo he's opened it up to American citizens (NDAA), not only hasn't he reduced our role in the middle-east he's expanded it and has even ventured into africa, he's beefed up the drug war, the once candidate of the people has consistently bailed out the rich, and the once peace candidate is now edging us closer to another useless war everyday.  Pointing out that he has been, at best, George W. Bush on steroids isn't a smear: it's accurate.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 11:28
Did you all see the disgusting support the NDAA received from all GOP candidates but one last night?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 16:30
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Did you all see the disgusting support the NDAA received from all GOP candidates but one last night?


Maybe voters and politicians need to be detained Salem-style for a while without due process.  Perhaps only then will they realize the value of the fifth and sixth amendments.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 18:23
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Did you all see the disgusting support the NDAA received from all GOP candidates but one last night?


Maybe voters and politicians need to be detained Salem-style for a while without due process.  Perhaps only then will they realize the value of the fifth and sixth amendments.

We can not truly be free until we are all locked up and the people who don't vote and aren't politicians are put in charge. Tongue
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

There's a difference with disagreeing and smearing.  Pointing out that he has been, at best, George W. Bush on steroids isn't a smear: it's accurate.

No it's bullcrap.  If you think some of Obama administration's policies aren't an anathema to liberals you aren't paying attention.  If you think you can convince us to support Paul you aren't making as convincing of an argument as you think you are.  For whatever you want to blame it on RP will not be the Republican nominee.  If you think we'll vote for Romney over Obama forget about it.  We won't sit this one out though.

And still you can not name one policy of the Obama administration you actually agree with.

Are you intentionally blinded by hate?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 19:07
Hahaha, you're amazing.  You really can't seperate policy from person, can you?  I'd be hard pressed to name a piece of policy from W that I agree with either.  I'm not trying to get you to vote for anyone but I would like you to stop being so tied up in party politics.  Everything you say is based the belief that no matter how much the democrat is a republican or the republican is a democrat you should vote for them because they have the correct letter next to their name and, even though they are basically the same, one is the "lesser of two evils".  I'm basically trolling the two-party system through you Tongue because you just make a great poster boy for it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 19:26
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Hahaha, you're amazing.  You really can't seperate policy from person, can you?  I'd be hard pressed to name a piece of policy from W that I agree with either.  I'm not trying to get you to vote for anyone but I would like you to stop being so tied up in party politics.  Everything you say is based the belief that no matter how much the democrat is a republican or the republican is a democrat you should vote for them because they have the correct letter next to their name and, even though they are basically the same, one is the "lesser of two evils".  I'm basically trolling the two-party system through you Tongue because you just make a great poster boy for it.


I really don't like the results the two party politics deliver here.  It is however what we have to work with.  I do think it was made worse by the rubber stamp for superpacs.  What do you think about that?  Do you believe in corporate person hood? 

Yeah I know I am compromising my beliefs by not treating you as total moron.  Roll with it.

I'm more interested in the exchange of ideas than insults.  You will now say that I am not.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2012 at 20:44
I'll say that you are not because you've never should that you have.  I'll be more than open to you doing so from now on but, come on, your past is full of posting hit pieces and political cartoons (not to mention your go to insinuations of racism). 
 
You know, instead of focusing on protecting the Obama administration why don't you focus on the areas in which we agree (which, coincidentally enough, are areas that Obama doesn't agree with us).  Be your own man for a bit.  Would much rather discuss what your beliefs are and how/why you came to them without party labels entering into it.
 
As for superpacs: anyone should be able to buy adspace in this country.  McCain/Feingold should be tossed out as Unconstitutional, though, as it places limits on political free speech. 
 
Corporations are not people but those individuals that make up corporations are.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2012 at 05:14
You only consider them hit pieces because you don't agree with opinions.  Political cartoons are a way getting a point across graphically and have been a part of political discourse for a very long time. 

But you have to face some facts, racism is far from dead in this country, it just isn't as overt.  To be sure most peoples beliefs don't fit into neat boxes, but you can't divorce politics from party labels.

I find it amusing that Newt thought the Citizens United decision was a good one and then started whining when the superpac beasts turned on him. 

McCain Feingold put limits on paid speech.  Should those with money have the right to shout down the rest of us?

Lastly, the people who make up corporations already have free speech rights, I see no need to let their companies have it.

Brought to mind a funny line:  I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one of them. LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2012 at 06:53
So, I'm hearing that Romney pays only 15% tax on his personal $200,000,000 fortune.

That wont go down well at a time, when the US economy is on the rack, and the news is full of protests against a few too many fat greedy b&stards at the top of the dung heap, having all the pie.

If I were a cynic, I'd say Romney is just A.N Other auto-cue reading, groomed, globalisation and corporatism freak, like Obama....and Bush, and Clinton etc etc....

This is good news for Ron Paul.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2012 at 08:00
Romney's statements have repeatedly shown is an out of touch rich kid who doesn't really appreciate what life is like for those of us not born into privilege.  I admire Paul for hanging in there but I suspect the reason why he is holding steady is that the mainstream media has written him of and he's not getting much scrutiny.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2012 at 09:08

As the primary drags on Romney's support of NDAA should be what haunts him, not his income tax statement.  In other news, former half-term governor and failed reality show star told voters in SC to vote for Newt just to keep the primary going.  Now, she's never been the brightest bulb on the tree but coming out for the progressive who has no campaign and isn't even on Virginia's ballot?  I'm guessing the republican party called her up for a little help with their Ron Paul problem.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2012 at 09:21
The US has long been the beacon of democracy in the world (supposedly) but then I see Romney's net (over 200 million) and then I see that everyone in US politics (even Ron Paul) is rich, then I see that even in not-so-democratic countries like mine of origin you don't really have to be rich to be a president, and I ask: isn't that a sign that the US democracy is just a rich people's game? Why did it become like this? I've no problem with rich people but those who love big governments and blame the rich for everything should realize that probably nowehere else is being rich such a sine-qua-non requirement to be a president as in the US.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2012 at 09:31
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

isn't that a sign that the US democracy is just a rich people's game?  

Of course.  At least at the level of running for President.  But even just running for a Congressional seat requires tons of money; if you don't have the funds already, you have to spend every waking minute trying to raise them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2012 at 09:36
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Romney's statements have repeatedly shown is an out of touch rich kid who doesn't really appreciate what life is like for those of us not born into privilege.  I admire Paul for hanging in there but I suspect the reason why he is holding steady is that the mainstream media has written him of and he's not getting much scrutiny.
 
 
The reason he hasn't been able to gather more support has been because of the media ignoring him.  When they aren't ignoring him they are pressing the "will he run third party" script to try to discredit his campaign or manufacturing "surges" for the more ridiculous candidates.  And, of course, the "right-wing" media (O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Levin, etc) have been overtly trying to destroy him since he started gaining traction.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2012 at 10:20
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2012 at 10:53
Rick Perry drops out and maintains his credibility, as a Washington outsider, by endorsing.... Newt Gingrich?! Wacko
 
In related news: Will ABC's attempt to finally rid us of the power-hungry sociopath work or backfire in a disastrous way?
 
Only four podiums at tonight's debate.  Hopefully CNN doesn't fill their crowd with the same bloodthirsty maniacs FuxNews did.


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