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Topic: Steve Reich Prog?
Posted: January 16 2012 at 19:52

In my mind, i categorize Steve Reich as prog.

What do you folks think?

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Posted: January 16 2012 at 19:54

He's is definitely innovative and very artistic in music. But he is not a Rock artist.

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Posted: January 16 2012 at 19:54

Nope - but I love his stuff.

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Posted: January 16 2012 at 19:54

Technically, no. Worthy of checking out, yeah!!!

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Posted: January 16 2012 at 21:13

In my mind, I categorize Steve Reich as repetitive to the point of me being unable to hear his music for more than an hour.

What do you folks think?

I like Different Trains though.

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Posted: January 16 2012 at 22:46

Innovative and groundbreaking, yes. Prog as in Prog Rock, no. Worth listening to? Absolutely. For more than an hour? Maybe. For less than an hour? Sure.

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 02:41

Progosopher wrote:

Innovative and groundbreaking, yes. Prog as in Prog Rock, no. Worth listening to? Absolutely. For more than an hour? Maybe. For less than an hour? Sure.

This - maybe change "maybe" to "no"

Very few artists last that long in way of listning, anything above 20-25 min (vinyl side), only the few chosen one's.

I can have a Gentle Gaint day, or a Fripp (crimson) day. Zepplin hours, ect.

Cant imagine i'll ever end up havin a Reich sunday.

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 06:14

Polo wrote:

In my mind, I categorize Steve Reich as repetitive to the point of me being unable to hear his music for more than an hour.

What do you folks think?

I like Different Trains though.

Which train is your favorite?

Metheny and Reich teaming up for Electronic Counterpoint was totally unexpected.

Edited by Slartibartfast - January 17 2012 at 06:16

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 06:57

Yes, because this great composer is widely accepted by the proggers. Of course he's not rock, but that argument is not valid for not addition to PA because in PA are so many others great artists who are also not rock at all, but they are here because they are accepted by Progressive Rock fanatics or (and) because they are influential to the genre.

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 07:04

By the way for fans and the curious, check out this documentary that is available on youtube:

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 07:26

Then, Philipp Glass, Terry Riley, Karl-Heinz Stockhausen, Boulez, Olivier Messiaen, John Cage, etc...

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 07:48

RILEY, TERRY

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 08:19

Slartibartfast wrote:

RILEY, TERRY

Oh.

Just let me edit my post...

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 08:22

All major serious music composers progressed music - but then using the semantics of the website where's the "rock" element? Andrew Lloyd Weber on Desert island Discs, included Shostakovitch's 1st Cello Concerto, by stating it was the first "rock concerto". Could be but doesn't justify inclusion here. Terry Riley, could be special case as he has recorded a lot of his own work, and then for example Rainbow In Curved Air, Church of Anthrax are included in the "rock canon" and well as being referenced by various musicians - Townshend, Ratledge, and of course Curved Air

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 08:57

CPicard wrote:

Slartibartfast wrote:

RILEY, TERRY

Oh.

Just let me edit my post...

Who let all of this riff raff into the room? Being a fan of Glass and Reich I still can't advocate for their inclusion. I haven't gotten to know Riley though. I know Riley Freeman from Boondocks better. LOL

Edited by Slartibartfast - January 17 2012 at 08:58

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 09:05

We need : www.whywonttheyincludethison-pa.org

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 10:11

Terry Riley is on PA? WHAT

There is a sh*tload (or f**kton, not sure which is bigger) of modern classical composers that are more progressive than anything on this site but that don't mean we should include them. It's got to be some sort of rock music, right?

Slartibartfast wrote:

Which train is your favorite?

Metheny and Reich teaming up for Electronic Counterpoint was totally unexpected.

First one.

lol metheny

Edited by Polo - January 17 2012 at 10:14

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 12:52

Svetonio wrote:

Yes, because this great composer is widely accepted by the proggers. Of course he's not rock, but that argument is not valid for not addition to PA because in PA are so many others great artists who are also not rock at all, but they are here because they are accepted by Progressive Rock fanatics or (and) because they are influential to the genre.

pretty good point i think...

univers zero (based only on my experience of ceux des dehors is not rock, but is here, and there are certainly more examples...

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 13:06

Exactly ... or Miles Davies, Chick Corea, Jan Garbarek...or maybe I am crazy, maybe they're not jazz icons ?

Isn't jazz much older and VERY DIFFERENT music than rock'n'roll?

Edited by Svetonio - January 17 2012 at 13:10

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Posted: January 17 2012 at 13:09

Mushroom Sword wrote:

He's is definitely innovative and very artistic in music. But he is not a Rock artist.

I beg to differ.

HUGE minimalist fan here. Though I'm more of a Philip Glass and John Adams man meself, Reich is definitely awesome. Also not prog

I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't

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