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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2012 at 11:50
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Nice. I just learned that compromising in your principles is desirable.



I thought that was a necessity to be allowed in politics?

That holocaust denial part reminded me....Obama has been such a flopper, he even pulled a 180 on recognizing the Armenian Genocide!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognition_of_the_Armenian_Genocide#Position_of_the_United_States
And that makes System of a Down sad... though Serj can't fully admit it.


As a flaming liberal it IS hard at first but when you learn to accept Obama's failure it gets easierBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2012 at 13:08
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

I actually brought this point up a while ago, about Paul just digging his heels in and not passing anything. I recall most here were A OK with that, (if anything they started licking their chops) and when I said "well even he can't be that insane, he would NEED to moderate and pass some bills" someone, I think MoM, just said "o rly now!?"

Wish I could just ask Paul, if he said yeah he'd work with Congress to make the best possible I'd be on board.



Why do you think Congress needs to pass laws? What does it need to do? The only laws that really need to be passed would be ones repealing old laws.



I thought it was well established that I do believe in government so right off the bat that may be a reasonLOL
They can still repeal plenty of old ones, I would not mind


It was a specific question. What needs to be done? What percentage of laws do you really think are necessary?
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2012 at 13:09
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Nice. I just learned that compromising in your principles is desirable.



I thought that was a necessity to be allowed in politics?


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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2012 at 14:13
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Nice. I just learned that compromising in your principles is desirable.



I thought that was a necessity to be allowed in politics?


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Obviously sarcasm!


And man IDK. I would ask you the same question but I know you'd like probably 97% of laws to be removedLOL
I don't know, I cant give a %. There are so many laws we don't even really think about, stuff like regulating the width of railroad tracks, farming laws, sh*t I probably can't guess.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2012 at 18:50
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

regulating the width of railroad tracks


That's actually important.  Mismatched railroad gauge was one of the failures in Operation Barbarossa.  LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 01:19
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

regulating the width of railroad tracks


That's actually important.  Mismatched railroad gauge was one of the failures in Operation Barbarossa.  LOL




Really now?
And yeah I have no clue how I thought of that one but yeah I remembered how back in the day rail widths were just all over the place and caused issues...don't ask me to think of a law from the last 100 years though!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 08:20
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Nice. I just learned that compromising in your principles is desirable.



I thought that was a necessity to be allowed in politics?


...


Obviously sarcasm!


And man IDK. I would ask you the same question but I know you'd like probably 97% of laws to be removedLOL
I don't know, I cant give a %. There are so many laws we don't even really think about, stuff like regulating the width of railroad tracks, farming laws, sh*t I probably can't guess.



I think that's telling in itself. I'm just saying that Congress very rarely needs to do anything. The fact that they do something leads to trouble. I think we would be better off if Congress were only in session 40 days or so a year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 09:30
^They would still manage to:

1. Get incredibly fat paychecks; and,
2. Screw us all,

, with just 40 days a year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 10:09
I guess I can't disagree, I know I've said in the past I'd be A OK with a government that actually...governs. Instead of doing stuff (or more like pretending to do stuff) just do your job. I had a wake up call during the BP incident when some guy on MSNBC (go figure) said there's plenty of effective laws in place. Not just for regulation but moreso in general and we don't need to pass "new" things if they just governed what was already there.

So stupid it's brilliant!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 10:22
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^They would still manage to:

1. Get incredibly fat paychecks; and,
2. Screw us all,

, with just 40 days a year.


I agree, but I also think we shouldn't pay them. This would be more feasible if they're only expected to work 40 days a year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 10:24
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

I guess I can't disagree, I know I've said in the past I'd be A OK with a government that actually...governs. Instead of doing stuff (or more like pretending to do stuff) just do your job. I had a wake up call during the BP incident when some guy on MSNBC (go figure) said there's plenty of effective laws in place. Not just for regulation but moreso in general and we don't need to pass "new" things if they just governed what was already there.

So stupid it's brilliant!




The government could also not step in and cap damages when one of their big business buddies screws over thousands of people. I find that to be more important than enacting the laws currently in place.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 11:29
Yeah would be nice wouldn't it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 12:54
Also it's easy to hate the government when it takes 2 hours at the DMV.
Especially when I don't have a car at the moment and am waiting on someone to get home with it!

2 motherf**kin hours? He went to do a routine thing (I think) wtf?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 15:13
Everybody get over to www.drudgereport.com and vote for Dr. Paul.


Time always wins.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 22:31
I'll be perfectly honest: I'm extremely happy with the results.

Obviously, I don't think Santorum can sustain this. Granted, I still think Romney will unfortunately eek it out over Ron, but he'll give him a hell of a fight.


Edited by horsewithteeth11 - January 03 2012 at 22:32
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 23:07
Serious question: what's the point of voting for a 76 year old?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 23:24
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Serious question: what's the point of voting for a 76 year old?

Sense of right and wrong?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 23:29
Slarti ought to be smiling tonight: the media managed to bring the evangelicals out for the most ridiculous candidate in the entire race.  Goes from drawing crowds of 20 people to 20,000+ votes.  Something stinks here.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 23:31
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Serious question: what's the point of voting for a 76 year old?

Sense of right and wrong?


If by some miracle Ron Paul becomes President, there's a chance he'll die in office.

What's the point, seriously?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 23:33
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Serious question: what's the point of voting for a 76 year old?

Sense of right and wrong?


If by some miracle Ron Paul becomes President, there's a chance he'll die in office.

What's the point, seriously?

Eh he seems spry enough to make it through a 4 year term.
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