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refugee ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026 |
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I read your posts and found them highly interesting. Not that it surprises me that a b*****d like Franco even forced you to change names, I just didn’t know it. So, once again linking your information to the topic: Not really "obscure prog facts", but the Spanish violinist, composer and music teacher Ricardo Odriozola is highly influenced by prog: http://www.ricardoodriozola.com/bio.htm He grew up in a Basque town. The name "Ricardo" doesn’t seem strange at all, and though I don’t know about any other Odriozolas, it doesn’t sound weird. Could it be that he’s a Basque who had to change his name and later chose to keep his new name, possibly because he went abroad to study and work? |
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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Hi Refugee, glad that you found my posts interesting!
Personally I don't know about Ricardo Odriozola. Being spanish I can tell that Odriozola is clarly a basque family name, but as i said such basque family names have no conflict with castilian, the spelling and pronounciation are exactly the same in basque as in castilian, so Franco did not bother to change them.
He did forbid the first names which are basque-only and do not exist in castilian normal culture (such as Gorka, Itziar or many others, the general rule is that castilian is a catholic culture using christian names while basque was a pagan culture so many of its first names have no equivalent in the christian-name-catalog, Franco forbid all names which were not rooted in the christian culture).
Ricardo is a perfectly normal castilian first name so there are 2 possibilities:
1. His parents genuinely named him Ricardo, so no problem about it.
2. His parents wanted to give him some other basque name, but because if was forbidden they set for the officially acceptable Ricardo. It this was the case it can be that he just got used to the name of Ricardo and didn't bother to change it even when law made that possible (I have friends in the same situation, they got a name because of Franco's constrains but by the time they had possibility to change it they were so used to it that they did not bother to change it).
Persoanlly I don't know which is the real case for Ricardo Odriozola.
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You guys are detouring down a different path from the OP.
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Walter Becker of Steely Dan took guitar lessons from Randy California of Spirit. They lived in the same neighborhood in New York. This happened before Steely Dan, of course.
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Also working with Jurgen at times is singer Elke Schlimbach, who is the surviving sister of the late Helmut Koellen, former musician and vocalist for Triumvirat. She had a long career as a background vocalist, also working with the Tommy Engel Band, but has tried lately being a main vocalist for her own band (there is even something on youtube to that effect) Oh, and thanks huperkarl for your post, and welcome to PA! ![]() Edited by presdoug - December 13 2011 at 16:36 |
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Rocker Billy Idol likes the music of the Mahavishnu Orchestra (who would figure?)
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Jethro Tull's original manager Terry Ellis was Karen Carpenter's partner (and not just business) for a period of time in the 70s.
The other strange fact is that Ellis has been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame while Tull still remain on the outer as far as this award is concerned even after 43 years in the business and more than 60 million record sales. Anderson must have paid out on this institution big time not to get inducted. No? |
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Randy California of Spirit was offered a job playing with Jimi Hendrix Experience by Hendrix himself when Randy was only 15 but he couldn't join because his mother wouldn't let him. He formed the band Spirit with his step-father Ed Cassidy instead. BTW the name 'Randy California' was Hendrix' idea. Noel Redding of the Experience played on the Spirit album 'Kapt. Kopter & The (Fabulous) Twirly-Birds' but under a pseudonym to avoid legal issues with his label. |
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Well his guitarist Steve Stevens made 2 pretty good fusion-prog albums with Tony Levin and Terry Bozzio. Actually I had no idea who Stevens was until I heard those and I was quite impressed by his guitar playing.
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Snooker legend Steve Davies is a prog fan, especially of Magma.
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You just reminded me that Lady Gaga's BFF Lady Starlight (the deejay girl who opens a lot of Gaga's shows) is a serious Van der Graaf Generator fan. Apologies if this has already been mentioned.
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Some great facts here!
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"I gave up drugs when the doctor told me I had 6 months to live" Keith Richards
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Toni Tenille did backing vocals on Pink Floyd's "The Wall".
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Alex Lifeson played on the song Anesthetize of that same album (Fear of A Black Planet). But maybe nobody mentioned it, because Lifeson is not so obscure as Robert Fripp! ![]() |
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Prog metal fans might not know that Mekong Delta main man Ralph Hubert was involved in German band Schwarzarbeit (the latter added to PA earlier today).
And metal fans might want to investigate Mercyful Fate guitarist Michael Denner's involvement in some of the later productions courtesy of Robin Taylor. |
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