"Occupy" Protests

^ I know the Republicans were created as an anti-slavery party.  But this ain't your great great grandfather's republican party anymore. 

If only I could get a Bernie Sanders/Anthony Weiner ticket, I'd be as happy as you.

The Doctor wrote: If only I could get a Bernie Sanders/Anthony Weiner ticket, I'd be as happy as you.

Weiner is roasted.  How about a Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren ticket?

Slart and Chester, you guys would strike me as Green Party guys based on what I've read here.  When you say you'll vote Dem as the lesser of two evils, do you not believe in third party or are you just concerned you are throwing away your vote?

Catcher10 wrote: These people have been a nusance from day one and have been disrupting the lives of the so called "99%". Also depending where on the port facilities they are, its a security issue and they should be arrested and can be.   Since 911, most port facilities are high security areas only accesible by cleared personel, its like in an airport, there are certain places you just don't go.

Yeah, those people are f**king morons. I'd consider running over them, but I probably would stop myself... Probably.

Finnforest wrote: Slart and Chester, you guys would strike me as Green Party guys based on what I've read here.  When you say you'll vote Dem as the lesser of two evils, do you not believe in third party or are you just concerned you are throwing away your vote?

I feel like a vote for the Green Party would be a vote for the Republican Party.  Of course, I don't like our winner-take-all two-party system either.  I think a proportional representation, multi-party system is the ideal and that our system should be changed.  This is our lives and our government, not the bloody playoffs.  Under such a system, I would most likely vote for the Green Party. 

Oh, and Rob...my pant size is up to 36/32.  So my waistline is most definitely progressive. 

And that's a pity.

Suppose Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination.  He'll get numerous votes, effectively splitting the Republican party, and that will in turn give Obama a second term- not because anyone is voting for him, but because people are trying to vote their conscience and not the party line.

Finnforest wrote: @ Slart...Perot? Used to believe that Slarti but now I tend to agree to with the Doc.  I was a Green Party guy for years, but Florida taught me what can be at stake.  537 votes apart.  What was it, 193,000 votes cast for Nader in Florida?

Yeah, I had read a good article on Perot in Playboy, yes Playboy.   So he sounded interesting.  I didn't want more Bush and Clinton wasn't going to be as liberal as he was accused of being.  So I'm standing in a long line to vote in a precinct that was largely Republican and a lot of them seemed worried, so I would have preferred Clinton over Bush, Perot was a totally safe vote and I think we did send a message.  We got him up to 19%.

Look if you can't stand the choice between the two presidential candidates at least get out and vote.  There's usually a lot more things on the ballot than the president.

Gore ran a weak campaign and voting shenanigans along with us supreme court interference installed W as president.

Of course you bought the Playboy just for the political coverage, I understand.  I think I voted for Clinton that year, then switched to Nader for a while. 

You're most correct about the other stuff on the ballot being important too, but I just can't see how people will ignore math on the presidential race.  What do you gain by high fiving over a small percentage when it helps put your opposition in power?  I respect Paul for going for the nomination and would be happy for him if he wins, but to run Indie in this election....wow, he would be literally handing it to Obama. 

Pat and MoM are really gonna blast me, but that's how I feel.  I felt exactly as they did in 96/00, but I just don't anymore. 

Finnforest wrote: Of course you bought the Playboy just for the political coverage, I understand.  I think I voted for Clinton that year, then switched to Nader for a while.  You're most correct about the other stuff on the ballot being important too, but I just can't see how people will ignore math on the presidential race.  What do you gain by high fiving over a small percentage when it helps put your opposition in power?  I respect Paul for going for the nomination and would be happy for him if he wins, but to run Indie in this election....wow, he would be literally handing it to Obama.  Pat and MoM are really gonna blast me, but that's how I feel.  I felt exactly as they did in 96/00, but I just don't anymore.

I'm not so sure it's quite the same way anymore.  The Internet is a huge new factor in how election coverage is played out- it's gradually becoming the wealthy media's game to play.

And if Ron Paul does run independently, I'd say he still stands a chance.  Every other comment I read on various news source web pages that go out of their way to NOT mention him have comments sections buzzing about him.

So who knows what will happen.  If Paul does get the nomination, he will be our next President, but we'd still be stuck with the two-party system.  If he doesn't get it, and wins the Presidency (somehow), it will be an amazing feat that shows the American voters have come to a point of both being informed and fed up.