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lazland
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 13:48 |
Gandalff wrote:
lazland wrote:
^ No, not really. Neither of them are what I would describe as backing vocalists.
Without being rude, dear chap, you surely must realise by now it is this series of quite basic errors in your polls that annoy people? Why don't you think a little more carefully before you create them? We would rather have fewer polls that make some sense than a pile of nonsense. |
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Look Gandalff, I don't mean to have a go at you. You are obviously knowledgeable about the genre. All we ask is a little bit of thought before you post these polls.
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lazland
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 13:50 |
Gandalff wrote:
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Did Bill Ward do backing vocals. Are there Black Sabbath backing vocals? I'm not being funny,I just can't place them at the moment. |
Hard Road. For humble example... |
Yep, you are quite right. I forgot about that, the only time that all four members of the band (in any incarnation) made a vocal contribution. Again, though, this hardly qualifies Ward being described as a backing vocalist does it?
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 13:52 |
lazland wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
lazland wrote:
^ No, not really. Neither of them are what I would describe as backing vocalists.
Without being rude, dear chap, you surely must realise by now it is this series of quite basic errors in your polls that annoy people? Why don't you think a little more carefully before you create them? We would rather have fewer polls that make some sense than a pile of nonsense. |
Well, nobody's perfect. I'm pouring an ash on my head! |
Look Gandalff, I don't mean to have a go at you. You are obviously knowledgeable about the genre. All we ask is a little bit of thought before you post these polls. |
I think Gandalf is a nice bloke actually.
I just can't resist winding him up.
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lazland
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 13:55 |
Snow Dog wrote:
lazland wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
lazland wrote:
^ No, not really. Neither of them are what I would describe as backing vocalists.
Without being rude, dear chap, you surely must realise by now it is this series of quite basic errors in your polls that annoy people? Why don't you think a little more carefully before you create them? We would rather have fewer polls that make some sense than a pile of nonsense. |
Well, nobody's perfect. I'm pouring an ash on my head! |
Look Gandalff, I don't mean to have a go at you. You are obviously knowledgeable about the genre. All we ask is a little bit of thought before you post these polls. |
I think Gandalf is a nice bloke actually.
I just can't resist winding him up. |
So do I. Anyone who can take so much stick with so much good grace is clearly a nice person.
Edited by lazland - December 12 2011 at 13:56
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 13:58 |
Peter Townshend was actually a better singer than Roger Daltrey in the Who, so I'll vote for him.
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Gandalff
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 13:59 |
lazland wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Did Bill Ward do backing vocals. Are there Black Sabbath backing vocals? I'm not being funny,I just can't place them at the moment. |
Hard Road. For humble example... |
Yep, you are quite right. I forgot about that, the only time that all four members of the band (in any incarnation) made a vocal contribution. Again, though, this hardly qualifies Ward being described as a backing vocalist does it? |
Yes, I think this only one case just qualifies Ward for inclusion to the poll.
By the way, he's bloody good singer, I'm disappointed he has only few chances to sing - either in Sabbath or in his solo albums.
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lazland
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 14:01 |
HolyMoly wrote:
Peter Townshend was actually a better singer than Roger Daltrey in the Who, so I'll vote for him.
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I love Pete's voice, but, again, he was not a backing vocalist in the sense I understand the phrase. It would be more accurate to describe The Who as consisting of Daltry as lead vocalist and frontman, with Townshend as co vocalist and guitarist and general genius.
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 14:02 |
lazland wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
Peter Townshend was actually a better singer than Roger Daltrey in the Who, so I'll vote for him.
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I love Pete's voice, but, again, he was not a backing vocalist in the sense I understand the phrase. It would be more accurate to describe The Who as consisting of Daltry as lead vocalist and frontman, with Townshend as co vocalist and guitarist and general genius. |
Totally agree
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 14:37 |
I guess my feelings on this discussion are if one singer sings 9 of the 10 songs on an album and another person sings one song an album and backing vocals on the rest of the album, the first person is the lead vocalist and the second is a backing vocalist (who occasionally takes lead). I had assumed that was what the intention of this poll was.
Hackett did do backing vocals. On his own solo albums (the first four, before he decided to sing lead on his albums). The two I might agree shouldn't be here are Glenn Hughes, because he is primarily a lead vocalist who was relegated to backing vocals in Deep Purple and Bill Ward, because Sabbath really didn't have a lot of backing vocals.
But then, it isn't my poll.
Edited by The Doctor - December 12 2011 at 14:55
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 15:08 |
I love Peter Bardens voice. It's so surreal, beautiful and melancholic.
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 15:15 |
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 15:16 |
Well this is a jolly fun thread
My vote for Pete Townsend
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 15:41 |
Some random comments: Glenn Hughes sang quite a bit of lead vocals in Deep Purple. All those high-register Mark III notes are his, and there were major segments of the concerts, espeically in Mark IV, where he took over completely, not always to the betterment of the performnce. Still, I am the first to emphasize that we need to be clear on our definitions, as these seem to be the source of many disagreements, but there are many times when we split hairs on these things. Hell, if we can't even agree on what the meaning of the word 'Prog' is, how can we agree on the meaning of any other word? All of the vocalists listed have taken on lead vocals at some point or another to one degree or another. It seems to me that the question is about these individuals as backing vocalists. I do think the question could have been stated more clearly, but I think I understood what was meant. One of the issues that came up was that several of those mentioned went on to solo careers and/or released solo albums, where they were the main vocalists. I don't think those were part of the quesiton. Gandalf is like that one geeky student you find in philosophy classes that works reallly hard at the subject, and voices his quesitons and opinions to the annoyance of many other students, but actually adds a lot of spice and verve to the proceedings. For me to call someone geeky is a compliment. It is interesting to see how extensive some of us know their Prog. To see that, and to express our own knowldege, is the one of the main reasons we come here, is it not?
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 16:31 |
Chris Squire for me, closely followed by Brian May and Roger Taylor(both great on lead vocals. Steve Howe is horrendous and like Bob Dylan should never be allowed near a microphone IMO.
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 18:00 |
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Rick Wright was an excellent singer, and the few Floyd tracks he sang lead on are invariably amongst my favourites. |
Wish he had more leads.
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 18:52 |
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Rick Wright was an excellent singer, and the few Floyd tracks he sang lead on are invariably amongst my favourites. |
A rare moment of agreement.
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Posted: December 12 2011 at 19:19 |
I haven't heard much Deep Purple, and none at all from Glenn Hughes era. However, I've heard some songs sung by him and really liked his stile a lot. Chris Squire too could have been the lead singer in almost any other band... but not Yes.
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Gandalff
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Posted: December 13 2011 at 02:32 |
lazland wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
Peter Townshend was actually a better singer than Roger Daltrey in the Who, so I'll vote for him. |
I love Pete's voice, but, again, he was not a backing vocalist in the sense I understand the phrase. It would be more accurate to describe The Who as consisting of Daltry as lead vocalist and frontman, with Townshend as co vocalist and guitarist and general genius. |
Pete Townshend was one of Who's backing vocalists. If he wasn't, then I'm a Chinese Pope (or that's some bloody misunderstanding of the term itself). Pete has recorded a plenty of solo albums where certainly sings as lead vocalist.
The same case is Brian May, with the slight difference, he's not too prolific author like Townshend.
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Posted: December 13 2011 at 03:49 |
I do believe like Rutherford, Banks gets a bum rap as a vocalist. If you look at the " overall" Genesis sound with backing vocals their contribution to the Genesis brand is unsurmountable. I personally liken TB to a John Lennonesque sound, ref Fugitive, so he gets my vote hands down. Thank goodness he does not sound like Steve Hackett on Cured or Highly Strung
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Posted: December 13 2011 at 06:55 |
Squire.
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