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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2011 at 15:51
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I don't understand the weeping and gnashing of teeth: Any collaborator can see the Band Admission Policy and the Signed/Unsigned Policy in the CZ that was posted a year ago.

From what I can tell, it's essentially up to Philippe to decide what artists go into Prog Electronic and what artists don't.  Why there is only one person on a genre team is beyond me.  Ermm


this statement is beyond me.

I've been working on this subgenre since 2004 and the opening of the website. I don't play in solo but I will nominate one collaborator if needed. About the musical directions, they are well estabished in the subgenre definition. I've recently noticed that a handful of new reviewers want to subvert things

I don't think anyone is trying to subvert the team, I think Rob is just saying that perhaps a two- or three-member team would be better for the "democratic" nature of which a team (in my opinion, at least) should run. Not saying that you're not doing a bad job at all, just that, for example, perhaps a rejected band would be more easily defended if one were to say the "team" rejected it, rather than that one person rejected it.
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Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

^You might also want to recognize the last few pages have had nothing to do with Vompatti. LOL

They are all down to Post Christmas Shopping Traumatic Disorder. A type of disorder that hits all men very hard at this time of the year. I was in a shopping mall earlier today and needed extensive loving care after that experience. Not at least from seeing money leaving my pocket and being collected in shopping tills. Very traumatic.  
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Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

^ The most recent (or one of) artist he personally added, The Present Moment, is also not signed and with its albums up on Bandcamp, for which you can name your price. And that band still makes little to no sense why it's been added.

I still do not understand the prog value of this.


your declaration is pure no sense. Arguments please....

First of all they are officialy signed. Secondly I was asked to add them by their label which is obviously electronic orientated and largely devoted to "minimal-synth" (you should go back to some classics related to the genesis and history of the genre before to advance things)....but well I will delete the add...I don't care at all finally.

About Vompatti : I've already explained my views. I won't go back on my decision, whatever the pressure

Well that's one fine example of team work.



And where did you explain your views? In the collab zone?



I usually take the time for each evaluation, I generally give a positive vote based on the suggestions.  I refuse that project Vompatti based on substantial arguments....yes, the collab zone, this is the right place for it.


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Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I don't understand the weeping and gnashing of teeth: Any collaborator can see the Band Admission Policy and the Signed/Unsigned Policy in the CZ that was posted a year ago.

From what I can tell, it's essentially up to Philippe to decide what artists go into Prog Electronic and what artists don't.  Why there is only one person on a genre team is beyond me.  Ermm


this statement is beyond me.

I've been working on this subgenre since 2004 and the opening of the website. I don't play in solo but I will nominate one collaborator if needed. About the musical directions, they are well estabished in the subgenre definition. I've recently noticed that a handful of new reviewers want to subvert things

I don't think anyone is trying to subvert the team, I think Rob is just saying that perhaps a two- or three-member team would be better for the "democratic" nature of which a team (in my opinion, at least) should run. Not saying that you're not doing a bad job at all, just that, for example, perhaps a rejected band would be more easily defended if one were to say the "team" rejected it, rather than that one person rejected it.
My two cents.


that sounds correct. Anyway I won't create a huge team only to give an evaluation on this Vompatti issue you know....

Ricochet was part of the team time before. He left the team based on a voluntary basis...we did a great work and frankly I don't have an attitude which is to refuse any contribution....At this moment I just don't see who can be part of the team based on solid knowledges regarding this genre. I will try to think about it, maybe one or two collaborators names can rise.

Moreover I've noticed that one or two teams include several members with only one of them who is seriously active...


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Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

Hey, calm down.

No.
Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

My lack of access to the Collab Zone and collab discussions on this thread's subject, combined with the little time I spent on the prog music lounges surely make me no worthy of making assumptions.

Access to the CZ has nothing to do with it. I've an eleven page Censoreding Blog on the subject that you are free to ignore without having to go anywhere near the CZ.
Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

I'm sorry if my post didn't have enough warnings about my possible misinterpretation of the post I was mentioning, and I'm really sorry for understanding your point the wrong way. Do you remember which thread I was talking about? I don't think your post on it is older than 3 months.

If you mention me by name and then state that "least him are against unsigned acts." then I'm fully justified in ripping you a new a-hole regardless of any warnings about possible misinterpretation.
 
Tell you what Marco - you find this post of mine you are referring to and then we'll continue this conversation, because if you were too lazy to find it last night and apparently you're still too lazy to find it now, then I'm arsed if I'm going to find it for you. Okay?
 
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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2011 at 16:13
I think these questions should prob. be solved in a less open space Cool
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Points: 10185 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2011 at 16:17
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Tell you what Marco - you find this post of mine you are referring to and then we'll continue this conversation, because if you were too lazy to find it last night and apparently you're still too lazy to find it now, then I'm arsed if I'm going to find it for you. Okay?
 

That is fair enough. I actually tried searching for it a while after my post but this site's search engine isn't helping.
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Points: 16913 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2011 at 16:17
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

I think these questions should prob. be solved in a less open space Cool


Good callSmile
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2011 at 21:48
Oh, come back home a while before and missed this express thread ... Unhappy

Anyway, we need to recruit some newer Collabs for "One Specialist"Teams, don't we?
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2011 at 22:12
^I believe that is the discussion taking place in other places in the forum. Smile
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Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

^I believe that is the discussion taking place in other places in the forum. Smile
And in Admin Zone. Tongue
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Originally posted by DamoXt7942 DamoXt7942 wrote:

Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

^I believe that is the discussion taking place in other places in the forum. Smile
And in Admin Zone. Tongue

We can only imagine what truly is discussed in the AZ. LOL
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Points: 22774 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2011 at 22:43
Let's get this thread back on it's feet.


Andy, I hate your methods. Now you yell at me.
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2011 at 22:44
I TRY TO KEEP MY METHOD A LOGICAL AND DEMOCRATIC AND I DON'T APPRECIATE SOME VAGRANT COMING IN AND ACCUSING ME OF NOT BEING EFFECTIVE AT MY JOB.


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I TRY TO KEEP MY METHOD A LOGICAL AND DEMOCRATIC AND I DON'T APPRECIATE SOME VAGRANT COMING IN AND ACCUSING ME OF NOT BEING EFFECTIVE AT MY JOB.



That's what she said.

Yeah, I'm satisfied :)
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Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

I TRY TO KEEP MY METHOD A LOGICAL AND DEMOCRATIC AND I DON'T APPRECIATE SOME VAGRANT COMING IN AND ACCUSING ME OF NOT BEING EFFECTIVE AT MY JOB.



That's what she said.


This is quite a stretch, if I'd say so myself. LOL
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Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

Then how do you deal with an artist who releases his music as name-your-price downloads?
However the Genre team wants to be frank, this isn't that much of an autocracy and isn't that much of a democracy either and we don't account for every eventuality and possibility. Personally, I would treat them as free-download.
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Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I don't understand the weeping and gnashing of teeth: Any collaborator can see the Band Admission Policy and the Signed/Unsigned Policy in the CZ that was posted a year ago.

From what I can tell, it's essentially up to Philippe to decide what artists go into Prog Electronic and what artists don't.  Why there is only one person on a genre team is beyond me.  Ermm


this statement is beyond me.

I've been working on this subgenre since 2004 and the opening of the website. I don't play in solo but I will nominate one collaborator if needed. About the musical directions, they are well estabished in the subgenre definition. I've recently noticed that a handful of new reviewers want to subvert things

I don't think anyone is trying to subvert the team, I think Rob is just saying that perhaps a two- or three-member team would be better for the "democratic" nature of which a team (in my opinion, at least) should run. Not saying that you're not doing a bad job at all, just that, for example, perhaps a rejected band would be more easily defended if one were to say the "team" rejected it, rather than that one person rejected it.
My two cents.


that sounds correct. Anyway I won't create a huge team only to give an evaluation on this Vompatti issue you know....

Ricochet was part of the team time before. He left the team based on a voluntary basis...we did a great work and frankly I don't have an attitude which is to refuse any contribution....At this moment I just don't see who can be part of the team based on solid knowledges regarding this genre. I will try to think about it, maybe one or two collaborators names can rise.

Moreover I've noticed that one or two teams include several members with only one of them who is seriously active...


Why don't you invite Colorofmoney91 to the Team? He surely understand about Electronic Prog music, and have a blog about the topic here on PA.
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Originally posted by tupan tupan wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I don't understand the weeping and gnashing of teeth: Any collaborator can see the Band Admission Policy and the Signed/Unsigned Policy in the CZ that was posted a year ago.

From what I can tell, it's essentially up to Philippe to decide what artists go into Prog Electronic and what artists don't.  Why there is only one person on a genre team is beyond me.  Ermm


this statement is beyond me.

I've been working on this subgenre since 2004 and the opening of the website. I don't play in solo but I will nominate one collaborator if needed. About the musical directions, they are well estabished in the subgenre definition. I've recently noticed that a handful of new reviewers want to subvert things

I don't think anyone is trying to subvert the team, I think Rob is just saying that perhaps a two- or three-member team would be better for the "democratic" nature of which a team (in my opinion, at least) should run. Not saying that you're not doing a bad job at all, just that, for example, perhaps a rejected band would be more easily defended if one were to say the "team" rejected it, rather than that one person rejected it.
My two cents.


that sounds correct. Anyway I won't create a huge team only to give an evaluation on this Vompatti issue you know....

Ricochet was part of the team time before. He left the team based on a voluntary basis...we did a great work and frankly I don't have an attitude which is to refuse any contribution....At this moment I just don't see who can be part of the team based on solid knowledges regarding this genre. I will try to think about it, maybe one or two collaborators names can rise.

Moreover I've noticed that one or two teams include several members with only one of them who is seriously active...


Why don't you invite Colorofmoney91 to the Team? He surely understand about Electronic Prog music, and have a blog about the topic here on PA.


Well I've got a few names in mind, but I regret, he is not part of them.
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