Vompatti (yup, the one and only) - Prog Electronic

It'd be just like Senmuth's discography only without any ratings over 2 stars.

Polo wrote: I remember a post by Dean (I think) in which he condemned label-less artists as apparently if you're not on a label your music must not be good enough. I'm too lazy to look for it and yep, I may have synthetised his opinion in a blunt, perhaps distorted way, but looks like the admin team or at least him are against unsigned acts.

Anthony H. wrote: Epignosis wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Because of the signed/unsigned/free releases thing.  What absolute bollocks. That's an absurd policy in the year 2011. What exactly is absurd? Record labels are a defunct idea by this point. Free self-releases are becoming more and more ubiquitous, and it's nonsensical to reject this music (which CLEARLY fits into the site) on the basis of how it's released. Eh? We've made it already possible for free releases to get in, it's been almost a year now. Then why doesn't Vomps qualify? (I'm actually asking; maybe there's something I don't know about the policy.) The free releases policy was made to adjust the PA submission process to help pro bands and dedicated musicians that happen to release their music for free go through, while discerning them from bedroom projects or people creating music on a computer for fun, which PA is not about. Not that this should read that we consider bedroom projects and the likes as bad things, it's just where we chose to set the bar (we can't host all music created). But if the music fits, why not? By those standards, professionalism (regardless if it's free or not) is an important standard for inclusion. So, does this mean that we take Simon Railton off? My point is: it's inconsistent. If music fits on the site under a certain genre, then it should be included. Huh?  I was the final vote for Simon Railton.  He is on the Musea label, which ultimately swayed my decision. That said, I tend to be more liberal about free-releases.  Music is music is music is music. No, he should certainly stay. I'm just saying that under these supposed guidelines (which I disagree with), he should be removed. I was just using him as an example to criticize the guidelines.

Rob has said Railton is on the Musea label. His album is currently being sold for 9.90€. He's automatically eligible for evaluation by any team and has nothing to do with any guidlelines.

Dean wrote: Polo wrote: I remember a post by Dean (I think) in which he condemned label-less artists as apparently if you're not on a label your music must not be good enough. I'm too lazy to look for it and yep, I may have synthetised his opinion in a blunt, perhaps distorted way, but looks like the admin team or at least him are against unsigned acts. Bollocks. Real ones (not yours). If you're too ing lazy to look something up then don't misrepresent what you think I ing said - that's not being lazy, that's being ing ignorant. Congratulations you have now joined a very elite group of individuals on this forum who have managed to make me ing angry.   If that is all you managed to take away from the thousands of words I have written on the subject of unsigned bands, self-release and free-downloads then I clearly have been wasting my bloody time.   For your information I was the prime mover behind adopting the free-release policy within the PA that allows Genre Teams to decide for themselves whether they allow "unsigned" bands into their subgenres if they self-release albums by free-issue downloads only.

Hey, calm down.

My lack of access to the Collab Zone and collab discussions on this thread's subject, combined with the little time I spent on the prog music lounges surely make me no worthy of making assumptions.

I'm sorry if my post didn't have enough warnings about my possible misinterpretation of the post I was mentioning, and I'm really sorry for understanding your point the wrong way. Do you remember which thread I was talking about? I don't think your post on it is older than 3 months.

Dean wrote: Sorry Vomps. This nonsense has nothing to do with you. Personally, I love your music and always have done.       For anyone likes Vomps' music, another member here who has created some wonderful music is Aaron Jennings (Man OverBoard) www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45902.

omg k

Polo wrote: Dean wrote: infocat wrote: What is the definition of a "self-release", anyway?  All of Anekdoten's albums have been released on their own personal label, Virta. Is that self-release?  If not, why not?  Same with echolyn, I believe, except for as the world. And I'm sure there are many more. The PA has never blocked self-release albums - we treat self-released as "signed" if an album is available for purchase, therefore the band is automatically eligible for evaluation by a genre team. This is NOT the same as artiusts whose output is solely free-releases or free-downloads.   Band Admission Policy.   Free Release Policy   Then how do you deal with an artist who releases his music as name-your-price downloads ?

As a submissable band as long as the other criterias is there. You can choose to pay money too if you want. Surprisingly many does actually do that. 

CPicard wrote: 4 pages for the inclusion of Vomps? My, isn't he becoming the Most Important Wombat in History?

colorofmoney91 wrote: Ricochet wrote: ^ The most recent (or one of) artist he personally added, The Present Moment, is also not signed and with its albums up on Bandcamp, for which you can name your price. And that band still makes little to no sense why it's been added. I still do not understand the prog value of this.

your declaration is pure no sense. Arguments please....

First of all they are officialy signed. Secondly I was asked to add them by their label which is obviously electronic orientated and largely devoted to "minimal-synth" (you should go back to some classics related to the genesis and history of the genre before to advance things)....but well I will delete the add...I don't care at all finally.

About Vompatti : I've already explained my views. I won't go back on my decision, whatever the pressure

philippe wrote: colorofmoney91 wrote: Ricochet wrote: ^ The most recent (or one of) artist he personally added, The Present Moment, is also not signed and with its albums up on Bandcamp, for which you can name your price. And that band still makes little to no sense why it's been added. I still do not understand the prog value of this. your declaration is pure no sense. Arguments please.... First of all they are officialy signed. Secondly I was asked to add them by their label which is obviously electronic orientated and largely devoted to "minimal-synth" (you should go back to some classics related to the genesis and history of the genre before to advance things)....but well I will delete the add...I don't care at all finally. About Vompatti : I've already explained my views. I won't go back on my decision, whatever the pressure

Well that's one fine example of team work.

And where did you explain your views? In the collab zone?

Edited by Polo - December 10 2011 at 15:43

Epignosis wrote: I don't understand the weeping and gnashing of teeth: Any collaborator can see the Band Admission Policy and the Signed/Unsigned Policy in the CZ that was posted a year ago. From what I can tell, it's essentially up to Philippe to decide what artists go into Prog Electronic and what artists don't.  Why there is only one person on a genre team is beyond me.

this statement is beyond me.

I've been working on this subgenre since 2004 and the opening of the website. I don't play in solo but I will nominate one collaborator if needed. About the musical directions, they are well estabished in the subgenre definition. I've recently noticed that a handful of new reviewers want to subvert things