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AlexDOM 
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 Posted: December 10 2011 at 16:43 |
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But the revolution has had advantages and brought many artists into the light. I will say that.
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AlexDOM
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 16:41 |
Mp3s are nice and convenient for songs, not albums. And for prog, albums define a band not a song. Therefore I love the cd or vinyl. There's something about the physicality of them. You can touch them, feel them, smell them, and read along with the lyrics. Some artists do a fantastic job with the lyric booklets as well. I am someone that buys a lot of Morse since he's my favorite. He packages stuff very well and all his booklets are awesome, filled with pictures, notes, lyrics that are in cool fonts, and such ha ha. I mean yeah I rip them to my computer and put them on my sony walkman, but I still enjoy the physical cd. And recently I got into vinyls which I've grown to love. This is dorky, but I love taking them out of the giant sleeve in a giant case. Then put the needle on it and watch it spin. It's part of the whole experience. Plus the sound quality is so organic. It's vintage. Sure I like to buy an mp3 here or there of some song or something. I sometimes get mp3 albums (but not often). But I will always support the physical any day. And used cds are always cheap. Or I buy from the artist or record company site giving them 100% support.
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Progosopher
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 15:23 |
I still do not like mere downloads - I am 51 and definitely like to have something in my hands even though the important thing is the music itself. Nor do I care to jump on the re-release bandwagon. I will buy if it is something I do not already have or if the price is really low. And since I buy a lot of older recordings, that is a distinct possibility. Fortunately, there are still a few good record stores in my town, but they are not that reliable when it comes to Prog. Still, I can almost always find something of interest. And I can special order almost anything. There are also a couple of mail order outfits I go to. Despite how it may sound here, I think the digital revolution to be progress - it enables more artists to produce their music less expensively. The risk there is, of course, that there are fewer checks and balances to help guarantee quality. For the most part, though, I have not found this to be a problem. It seems to me that the brick and mortar store fell to the wayside due to digital downloads. The biggest blow there was the demise of Tower Records, one of the giants of the industry, and since I live in their hometown, their flagship store was not too far away from me.  This particular store was second only to famous Sunset Blvd. store where big stars often came in after hours and shopped away. I think Bruce Willis set the record for spending $30,000 in one night. I think a lot of us on this site could do that too if we had the money. I know I could.  |
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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tamijo
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Joined: January 06 2009
Location: Denmark
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 13:17 |
Back when you had to go to the record store, it was very hard to get prog, expt for the top selling names (floyd yes genesis jethro tull ect.) Im from small Denmark
When i started collection King Crims (about 76-77) took me 10 years or so to get them all.
Offcourse that was also fun, but remember KC is by far unknown, with less known acts, you had to be very luck'i.
Today i can by my music from online stores, having access to almost everything.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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JJLehto
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 12:39 |
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Long story short I am a supporter of the "revolution" and maybe...(though in my opinion not terrible) it would impact some older/established artists, but newer or upcoming prog artists benefit greatly in my eyes. It's easier to get your name out there, and if you choose to DIY that means you are not restrained by pressures. Pressures to make a hit and all that.
Also if you DIY that means even if you charge less than the standard for album...you still get more money since you dont have to pay others.
I see it as a good thing for music and especially prog, and I would agree the prog fanbase is more inclined to buy CDs/collect so there is still that.
edit: I am upset at the slow extinction of the local record store, mine seems to support itself on air because there is no one ever there, but while this isn't a popular answer (even for me) that's progress.....and you can't stop progress.
Especially when it is best for the hundreds of millions of music fans out there.
Edited by JJLehto - December 10 2011 at 12:40
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aprusso
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 12:29 |
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There are no more decent record shops because there has been the bloody digital revolution....
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CloseToTheMoon
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Location: Michigan
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 11:42 |
It's a double-edged advancement. The convenience is nice, but the sentiment of going to the record shop is gone.
It's just so much easier to surf itunes or amazon and find a great new band instead of paying for a whole album and getting burned. There's about 1-2 fantastic bands for every 5-10 bands that should never have gotten a recording contract.
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It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 09:38 |
 lazland wrote:
I love the digital revolution, especially since there are no decent record stores about any more. I just download from amazon, rip to a blank CD and my MP3 player, and off I go. |
Yeah, the demise of the physical stores is a loss but at the same time the ability to get stuff that wouldn't have been stocked at those places has been enhanced. I still have difficulties with the pay to download as it now exists. I don't mind making my own hard copy or transferring it into my computers and players. I don't even mind having to print out my own cover or booklet art too much. Sometimes it seems the portability that we have these days isn't fully appreciated by some.
Edited by Slartibartfast - December 10 2011 at 09:40
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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lazland
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Location: Wales
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 09:32 |
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I love the digital revolution, especially since there are no decent record stores about any more. I just download from amazon, rip to a blank CD and my MP3 player, and off I go.
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Blacksword
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 09:21 |
I think it's true that prog fans like to 'collect' albums, complete with packaging, but the MP3 revolution is a very welcome development in my opinion.
I still buy CD's, although I'm not on the bandwagon of having to own every re-edition or re-master of every album by my favourite bands. But, when I buy CD's they get ripped to my Itunes immediately, and I listen from there. I only play the CD's in my car.
Welcome, BTW.. 
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zumacraig
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 08:17 |
hey friends,
been lurking for years, finally registered. i've been fascinated and concerned with the music business and the digital revolution over the last 10 years. mp3's, pirating, deluxe editions, etc. personally, what i find interesting is that the prog scene hasn't been hit to hard by all this turmoil. prog fans like physical product (and lots of it) so the artists we love can make a living off selling CDs. this is in contrast to the indie and corp. scene that has all but imploded as a result of pirating and the need to play live to make money. any thoughts? i'm thinking in particular of artists like roine stolt and neal morse. they keep putting stuff out every 6 months because we will buy it. neal doesn't even play live that much. anyway, wondered what y'all thought :-)
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