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Posted: December 08 2011 at 21:22
The T wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Dudemanguy wrote:
Whoa, check out Rick Perry's new anti-gay, Jesus-inspired ad. (Realized it would fit better in here than the libertarian thread in case you noticed.)
In a world where politicians could only tell the truth that message would read: "I'm a Christian, but I don't follow the real, hippie, socialist Jesus who believed in health-care for all. I believe in the homophobic, white supremacist, corporation-loving, poor hating Jesus who lives in a single-wide somewhere in Mississippi. Anyway, I hate , I hate , I hate Mexicans, I hate women, and well, pretty much anyone who isn't white, male and owns land or a giant mega-corporation. I'd love to ram my Jesus down your children's throats. Oh, wait, that didn't sound right. Er, um. What I mean is kids should be forced to pray to my Jesus in schools. "
Yes I'm sure Jesus didn't like insurance companies. In fact a few gospels mention his push for eliminating them and replacing them with a government-run system, which in that time meant the governors and Rome itself. Basically, Jesus wanted Pontius Pilate to be i charge of checking Palestinians' asses...
Oh yes and Jesus knew his Marx and his Lenin. In fact it's been said that he was pissed off at f**king Che Guevara stealing so many fans from him in Latin America...
I'm glad I'm not the only one to have read that book in the Bible.
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: December 08 2011 at 21:09
Slartibartfast wrote:
The T wrote:
[QUOTE=The Doctor]
I hate women, and well, pretty much anyone who isn't white, male and owns land or a giant mega-corporation.
I'm sure we all are capable of being born into the right families and circumstances if we just work hard enough.
I was apparently just not quite hard-working enough pre-conception, as while I ended up white and male, I, through my own fault of course, did not end up being born into a wealthy family.
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: December 08 2011 at 20:47
The Doctor wrote:
Dudemanguy wrote:
Whoa, check out Rick Perry's new anti-gay, Jesus-inspired ad. (Realized it would fit better in here than the libertarian thread in case you noticed.)
In a world where politicians could only tell the truth that message would read: "I'm a Christian, but I don't follow the real, hippie, socialist Jesus who believed in health-care for all. I believe in the homophobic, white supremacist, corporation-loving, poor hating Jesus who lives in a single-wide somewhere in Mississippi. Anyway, I hate , I hate , I hate Mexicans, I hate women, and well, pretty much anyone who isn't white, male and owns land or a giant mega-corporation. I'd love to ram my Jesus down your children's throats. Oh, wait, that didn't sound right. Er, um. What I mean is kids should be forced to pray to my Jesus in schools. "
Yes I'm sure Jesus didn't like insurance companies. In fact a few gospels mention his push for eliminating them and replacing them with a government-run system, which in that time meant the governors and Rome itself. Basically, Jesus wanted Pontius Pilate to be i charge of checking Palestinians' asses...
Oh yes and Jesus knew his Marx and his Lenin. In fact it's been said that he was pissed off at f**king Che Guevara stealing so many fans from him in Latin America...
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Posted: December 08 2011 at 20:15
Jesus was Jewish after all, but that didn't prevent some Christians from the act of hijack. Jesus didn't believe in health care for all, but he didn't advocate tossing the least of us into the street either because they were poor. He was against money in the temples. I believe that many drugs should be legalized but I don't see how killing the income tax and social security should be linked. There's been a long demonetization of it. Oh it's a Ponzi scheme. Unless the program that is designed to take money up from the many to the few, how can it be by definition? Take the cap off and then tell me it's a Ponzi scheme. Why shouldn't the wealthy pay the same rate as the rest of us? You want a flat tax. Start there. Then close the loopholes and we can start about a flat tax. But wait. If we just eliminate all taxes, so much revenue will flood in that all will be utopia.
Have fun with it.
Edited by Slartibartfast - December 08 2011 at 20:16
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Posted: December 08 2011 at 20:01
Epignosis wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Dudemanguy wrote:
Whoa, check out Rick Perry's new anti-gay, Jesus-inspired ad. (Realized it would fit better in here than the libertarian thread in case you noticed.)
In a world where politicians could only tell the truth that message would read: "I'm a Christian, but I don't follow the real, hippie, socialist Jesus who believed in health-care for all. I believe in the homophobic, white supremacist, corporation-loving, poor hating Jesus who lives in a single-wide somewhere in Mississippi. Anyway, I hate , I hate , I hate Mexicans, I hate women, and well, pretty much anyone who isn't white, male and owns land or a giant mega-corporation. I'd love to ram my Jesus down your children's throats. Oh, wait, that didn't sound right. Er, um. What I mean is kids should be forced to pray to my Jesus in schools. "
Doc, chill on the generalizations and extrapolations. It makes you look bad. Not anybody else.
Epignosis, you have apparently mistaken me for someone who cares what you think. Really kinda had enough of you jumping on my every post. So from now on thou shalt be ignored.
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
Whoa, check out Rick Perry's new anti-gay, Jesus-inspired ad. (Realized it would fit better in here than the libertarian thread in case you noticed.)
In a world where politicians could only tell the truth that message would read: "I'm a Christian, but I don't follow the real, hippie, socialist Jesus who believed in health-care for all. I believe in the homophobic, white supremacist, corporation-loving, poor hating Jesus who lives in a single-wide somewhere in Mississippi. Anyway, I hate , I hate , I hate Mexicans, I hate women, and well, pretty much anyone who isn't white, male and owns land or a giant mega-corporation. I'd love to ram my Jesus down your children's throats. Oh, wait, that didn't sound right. Er, um. What I mean is kids should be forced to pray to my Jesus in schools. "
Doc, chill on the generalizations and extrapolations. It makes you look bad. Not anybody else.
While I disagree with your specifics (knowing your politics), the "white" concept of Jesus is a stupid idea. Jesus was not socialistic nor someone who "believed in health-care for all" (the notion we have of health care didn't even exist then). However, he did not shun immigrants and (as far as we can tell) thought the Roman government was an overbearing and illegitimate mother. I might go so far as to say he abhorred Roman taxes (Mark 12 and Matthew 17).
I believe in legalizing drugs and doing away with income tax and FICA, so that immigrants couldn't enter and leave as they wish, doing business as they wish.
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Posted: December 08 2011 at 18:52
Dudemanguy wrote:
Whoa, check out Rick Perry's new anti-gay, Jesus-inspired ad. (Realized it would fit better in here than the libertarian thread in case you noticed.)
In a world where politicians could only tell the truth that message would read: "I'm a Christian, but I don't follow the real, hippie, socialist Jesus who believed in health-care for all. I believe in the homophobic, white supremacist, corporation-loving, poor hating Jesus who lives in a single-wide somewhere in Mississippi. Anyway, I hate , I hate , I hate Mexicans, I hate women, and well, pretty much anyone who isn't white, male and owns land or a giant mega-corporation. I'd love to ram my Jesus down your children's throats. Oh, wait, that didn't sound right. Er, um. What I mean is kids should be forced to pray to my Jesus in schools. "
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: December 08 2011 at 18:49
Apologize, but I've been following the politics since Carter and more so with the Reagan era. Luntz came on the scene as been a commentator on Fox and other media for a while. It's all about using words to get a visceral response more than getting people to think.
Edited by Slartibartfast - December 08 2011 at 18:56
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This ad reveals a fundamental understanding of what a President can do, which resonates with the level of understanding voters tend to have.
Demagog. Frank Luntzing. Actually Presidents can appeal to our better selves or beat up on people without power.
I edited my post to "misunderstanding" (as it should have been).
If that makes any sense- I don't really know what you're talking about.
I hope you didn't think this a personal attack on you. Rick Perry was slamming certain groups of people who are in the minority for personal political gain. Frank Luntz has made a career out using words to push peoples buttons against ideas that are for the better good for political gain.
No, no- I just didn't know what you meant. I Googled. I don't watch FOX news (or any news) really.
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Posted: December 08 2011 at 18:41
Epignosis wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
This ad reveals a fundamental understanding of what a President can do, which resonates with the level of understanding voters tend to have.
Demagog. Frank Luntzing. Actually Presidents can appeal to our better selves or beat up on people without power.
I edited my post to "misunderstanding" (as it should have been).
If that makes any sense- I don't really know what you're talking about.
I hope you didn't think this a personal attack on you. Rick Perry was slamming certain groups of people who are in the minority for personal political gain. Frank Luntz has made a career out using words to push peoples buttons against ideas that are for the better good for political gain.
"Words matter. The most powerful words have helped launch social
movements and cultural revolutions. The most effective words have
instigated great change in public policy. The right words at the right
time can literally change history.
Most of you know me as a wordsmith. From time to time my memos
and language guides have appeared on these pages -- sometimes with my
blessings and sometimes against my will. I realize that my work is
often controversial, and often you like to attack the messenger, but
it's the message that matters.
For those who care about words, I'm going to make it easy for
you. No need to dig through my trash or shuffle through my papers. I
will voluntarily open up my computer files to give you the "11 for
11"... the 11 most powerful words and phrases for 2011. This comes
straight from my new book, Win: The Principles That Take Your Business From Ordinary to Extraordinary.
These are the phrases that you should or would be hearing if the
political leaders were listening and communicating effectively. These
are the words that matter most in business, politics, the media and
culture:
"Imagine" is still the most powerful word in the
English language because it is inspiring, motivating, and has a unique
definition for each person. When you want to inspire, imagine is the
language vehicle.
"No excuses." Of all the messages used by America's
business and political elite, no phrase better conveys accountability,
responsibility and transparency. This phrase generates immediate
respect and appreciation.
"I get it." This explains not only a complete
understanding of the situation but also a willingness to solve or
resolve the situation. It's short, sweet and effective -- and too few
leaders use it.
"If you remember only one thing..." is the surest
way to guarantee that voters will remember the one point that matters
most to you. This is essential in complicated situations like the
upcoming debt ceiling vote.
"Uncompromising integrity." Of all the truthiness
words, none is as powerful as "integrity," but in today's cynical
environment, even that's not enough. People also need to feel that your
integrity is absolute.
"The simple truth" comes straight from billionaire
businessman Steve Wynn, and it sets the context for a straightforward
discussion that might otherwise be confusing or contentious. It's the
perfect phrase to begin and end the budget-deficit-debt debate.
"Believe in better" comes from BSkyB, the satellite
television provider owned in part by Rupert Murdoch's Newscorp empire.
Of all the corporate mission statements of the Fortune 100, "believe in
better" is the second-most popular -- and it applies to politics as
well. People don't want quantity. They want quality.
"Real-time." This is not a pitch for Bill Maher.
Many American were furious that they couldn't get the details of the
health-care legislation in a timely fashion. "Real-time" communicates
receiving information at the speed of life.
"You decide." No, this is not paying homage to Fox
News. The lesson of 2010 is that Americans want control of their lives
back, and they don't want Washington or Wall Street making their
decisions for them. So add the phrase "you're in control" and you've
said exactly what Americans want to hear.
"You deserve." This comes from DNC Chairman Tim
Kaine and it was first employed by him in his highly praised 2006 SOTU
response. It tells voters precisely what they should expect from their
politicians and their government.
"Let's get to work" was employed by Florida Governor
Rick Scott in his successful campaign. No other end-of-speech rallying
cry is more motivational to voters.
These are 11 phrases that will be shaping the public discourse
over the coming year. You won't find a similar list from a liberal
wordsmith -- there aren't any -- so you might as well use these. And if
you want the other 89 words and phrases that really matter, you'll just
have to buy the book."
Dr. Frank Luntz is the author of Win: The Principles That Take Your Business From Ordinary to Extraordinary. His two previous books have been New York Times Bestsellers.
If you are interested, credit for the book.
Edited by Slartibartfast - December 08 2011 at 18:51
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Posted: December 08 2011 at 17:26
Slartibartfast wrote:
What's funny is the question would I rather have Gingrich or Perry? Actually either one would do. But yeah, that ad is a poster child for someone who hates freedom.
Probably Perry since he's extremely stupid. Although Perry would make us a theocracy, Gingrich would reign like a king and assassinate anyone who voices opposition against him is suspected of terrorism.
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