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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Mmmhh I need some Circle too...

But for now, I´ll settle for this alluring n´ jazzy kraut gem:


I really love the naive feel of this record( thanks John), the whole thing feels like sitting on the floor in some obscure studio in Germany during the 70s. With thick weed smoke everywhere and people lying all over you - the sounds of the music just feel honest and live - like they had no real need for engineers or other silly things. It´s "right in the moment" music and it´s heartfelt - and certainly floats my boat.
 
Man thanks for posting that song David i adore it as you know.It's like listening to early NUCLEUS or some of the sixties Jazz greats then it veers off track completly. You have such a way with words Bamsen and thanks for your description.
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Originally posted by Eetu Pellonpää Eetu Pellonpää wrote:

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

I need to  get me some CIRCLE.


Talked to my friend who is quite educated with Circle's discography, and he suggested for a krauthead albums "Taantumus", "Forest", "Zopalki", "Arkades", "Miljard" and "Prospekt".
From them I have listened and reviewed Zopalki, I wonder if this review enlightens the album in satisfying way.

I think their discography is quite vivid and large, containing both interesting and bit confusing elements for my ears.
Went once to their concert, where the first thrid was kind of avantgarde heavymetal parody, second third really quiet celestial ambient, and last third one-key hazy stoner rock elevation.

Maybe from this random video one can hunt down other YouTube uploads of the band:



I would also recommend Ektroverde from these Circle musicians, I think their album "Ukkossalama" is mostly focused to the "krautish" traits.



Thanks so much Eetu this is a band i need to investigate.I have ordered a couple of cds so far.
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Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

Hi, just joined the forum. You have the Krautrocksampler type music pretty well covered, do you consider groups such as Birth Control, Eloy and Frumpy to fall into the Krautrock genre? I've only become aware of these, and many others, over the last year since spotting the "Krautrock - music for your brain" box sets.
 
David answered your question much better than i could have but as far as FRUMPY goes i do keep their Frumpy 2 album in my Krautrock section even though they list it here under Eclectic.And as far as that record goes it's simply an incredible listen.If you like that one check out Jean-Jauques Kravetz's solo album.He was the keyboardist on that Frumpy 2 album and released his solo album the following year.Even Inga the singer for FRUMPY guests on one track.
By the way guys i love ELOY's early stuff the best especially Floating.
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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Mmmhh I need some Circle too...

But for now, I´ll settle for this alluring n´ jazzy kraut gem:


I really love the naive feel of this record( thanks John), the whole thing feels like sitting on the floor in some obscure studio in Germany during the 70s. With thick weed smoke everywhere and people lying all over you - the sounds of the music just feel honest and live - like they had no real need for engineers or other silly things. It´s "right in the moment" music and it´s heartfelt - and certainly floats my boat.
 
Man thanks for posting that song David i adore it as you know.It's like listening to early NUCLEUS or some of the sixties Jazz greats then it veers off track completly. You have such a way with words Bamsen and thanks for your description.



Well you´re quite welcome - and right back at cha, you were after all the one getting me into this wonderful blue vampire albumBig smile I agree with you on the Nucleus parallel - and still there´s something unique there. Maybe it´s the vocalsLOL(which I´ll admit- have grown on me big time)

I´ve been listening a lot to German fusion lately, with and without Kraut tendencies, and your recent Brainstorm reviews has got me drooling all over myself - you naughty man!!!
Today I have been listening to Kraan´s debut, Aera - Hand und Fuss(great and powerful fusion with some sax work that sounds like elephants from the junglebook), Morpheus - Rabenteur(brilliant under the radar fusion), Embryo - Steig Aus und - sorry and Release Music Orchestra - Life. It´s been a jazzy afternoon indeed...
Yesterday, I completely immersed myself in Russia (sounds horribly weird though) listening to Vespero and The Gourishankar. Vodka? Njet!

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Regarding Eloy and Floating vs. Inside - I am really at a loss as to which I would pick over the other. At the moment I´m digging Inside a bit more, but we are talking nitpicking here - both records are indeed wonderful.
The closest they got to that "druggy" sound later on,( yeah well shoot me - there was drugs all across the board back in those days, and not like now where professional musicians feed of smoothies and low fat cigars), was that Love over six centuries, which I happen to love. The weird and bizarre story telling of " my father is a scientist" just gets me every timeLOL

Oh what the heck - here it is, if some uninitiated guests haven´t stumbled over this mad piece:



Edited by Guldbamsen - December 04 2011 at 13:06
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LOL, this album is definitely growing on me. Just as well our hero had something in his pocket he and the girl could smoke, resulting in true loveLOL
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Gotta check out Nurse With Wound. main man Steven Stapleton's biggest influence is Krautrock and this has largely filtered into their many albums of surrealist art rock dada avant musick......

Albums to check out:

- Chance Meeting On A Dissecting Table Of A Sewing Machine & An Umbrella (1979)
- To The Quiet Men From A Tiny Girl (1980)
- Merbild Schweit (1980)
- Insect & Individual Silenced (1981)
- Rock n' Roll Station (1994)
- An Awkward Pause (1999)
- Disconnected (with Faust) (2008)
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and lets not even start on the infamous NWW list which listed all the ultra obscure krautrock stuff......
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Thanks, I will make a note to remember NWW after returning from 70s German time warp.

I think someone mentioned Walter Wegmüller but don't recall any links - so here is Die Sonne.



Getting Ash Ra Tempel, Klaus Schulze, Wallenstein,Witthueser & Westrupp all on one album strikes me as a fantastic bargain, plus it also featured in one of the strange coincidences forcing me to look properly at the TarotStar



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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I wish i could find Krautrock more like Can. Awesome musicians and Tago Mago is great.

Any suggestions?

Prefer English vocals. Hope this doesn't limit the genre too much.
 
If you will allow me, I would like to caution you about wanting to hear the same thing ... musicians are people, and I doubt that you will find that anyone will ever want to be someone else out there ... unless it is Elvis impersonations and you already know about those!
 
I recommend stopping by Holger, or Can's website, and read about it ... when you find out that Tago Mago was culled haphazardly from many hours of tape and Holger says there was no rhyme or reason for any choice ... you might reconsider what they were doing and why! ... remember these folks were students with some very well known and widely accepted "classical composers" that were in their schools ... and they did KNOW what they were doing and improvising with.
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Hi,
 
I'm looking for the album by that band ... "Sweet Smoke" ... anyone seen it?
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
I'm looking for the album by that band ... "Sweet Smoke" ... anyone seen it?



Hey Mosh - I really dig that album, and oddly enough that Morrison bit in the middle - just works like a charm for me(you are probably talking to the biggest Morrison fan north of Belgium). I mostly listen to this album in the summertime though, I don´t know, maybe it´s something about the "feel" of the album that persuades my mind into thinking about sunshine and swimming in lakes.

Anyway, Amazon´s got one of those 2 albums for one, where you will be getting their 2nd album to boot(I didn´t know about a second one, if I have to honest). Here´s a link: http://www.amazon.com/Just-Darkness-Light-Sweet-Smoke/dp/B00002DEXK/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1323289793&sr=1-1
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Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

Thanks, I will make a note to remember NWW after returning from 70s German time warp.

I think someone mentioned Walter Wegmüller but don't recall any links - so here is Die Sonne.



Getting Ash Ra Tempel, Klaus Schulze, Wallenstein,Witthueser & Westrupp all on one album strikes me as a fantastic bargain, plus it also featured in one of the strange coincidences forcing me to look properly at the TarotStar




Thanks for posting that i'm a huge fan of that album.It is pretty amazing that he got so many legendary guys to help out.A must for Krautrock fans for sure.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
I'm looking for the album by that band ... "Sweet Smoke" ... anyone seen it?



Hey Mosh - I really dig that album, and oddly enough that Morrison bit in the middle - just works like a charm for me(you are probably talking to the biggest Morrison fan north of Belgium). I mostly listen to this album in the summertime though, I don´t know, maybe it´s something about the "feel" of the album that persuades my mind into thinking about sunshine and swimming in lakes.

Anyway, Amazon´s got one of those 2 albums for one, where you will be getting their 2nd album to boot(I didn´t know about a second one, if I have to honest). Here´s a link: http://www.amazon.com/Just-Darkness-Light-Sweet-Smoke/dp/B00002DEXK/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1323289793&sr=1-1
 
 
CD Universe has it too and it's cheap.It's also the two on one that David mentioned. Just A Poke and Darkness To Light.
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Listened to DRUM CIRCUS on the way home from work tonight.If your into BRAINTICKET from Switzerland you should check these guys out as it includes both Joel Vandroogenbroek and Carol Muriel the crazed singer from that band.This was before BRAINTICKET so it's cool to here this.It's very Krauty with one song sounding like Free Jazz.The sax and flute from Joel is excellent throughout.This was really the drummer's project and he came up with the name because he dreamed of taking his band from town to town like a circus would to share his music.A couple of the tracks feature words from Timothy Leary poems.
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Is it similar to Cottonwoodhill Brainticket or later Brainticket?  If it's similar to the debut, I'm very interested, and if it's similar to the later stuff I'm somewhat interested.  Then again, it could be completely different from either. LOL
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Is it similar to Cottonwoodhill Brainticket or later Brainticket?  If it's similar to the debut, I'm very interested, and if it's similar to the later stuff I'm somewhat interested.  Then again, it could be completely different from either. LOL
 
So what was your question ?LOL
It's more like Cottonwood Hill but differentLOL
The first side long track definetly brings Cottonwoodhill to mind with Carol's vocals but it's not nearly as out there.But...it's more out there than later Brainticket albums for sure. In fact the reason this wasn't originally released because it was thought to be too out there(it's not though).  If that hasn't confused you Jon i don't know what else will.Heck i'm confused and i'm doing the talking.LOL
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^Great post that oneLOL
I too got confused just before, when I tried listening to The Nazgul. Man that is some pretty trippy stuff for an album made in 1975, where most of the big Kraut bands had tuned into the rock n´ roll vein. I mean, this is proper out there - in like Austria or Jupiter. Still a bit confused as it turns out...

Oh and I second the Drum Circus recommendation - how could I not? Being a drummer and all.  
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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

Thanks, I will make a note to remember NWW after returning from 70s German time warp.

I think someone mentioned Walter Wegmüller but don't recall any links - so here is Die Sonne.



Getting Ash Ra Tempel, Klaus Schulze, Wallenstein,Witthueser & Westrupp all on one album strikes me as a fantastic bargain, plus it also featured in one of the strange coincidences forcing me to look properly at the TarotStar




Thanks for posting that i'm a huge fan of that album.It is pretty amazing that he got so many legendary guys to help out.A must for Krautrock fans for sure.


Putting that one on after I finish Klaus Schulze´s Timewind. If it wasn´t for those ahem acquired vocals, I´d most likely rate this a masterpiece. Great psychedelic drenched atmosphere on it - I just love the guitar work by Manuel GöttschingHeart
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Tarot is a total sprawling tripped out masterpiece!!!! one of the alltime great Kraut/Kosmiche albums ever!!!! If you open the dictionary and look for the word 'trip' you shld see a pic of the album there hahahaha
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