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    Posted: November 23 2011 at 00:10
I've been lately listening to Zappa a lot, mostly hot rats. Because he has made so much and different music, it's hard for me to find the albums to listen to. So, i'm asking you to name he's best (mostly) serious prog/jazz-rock albums, so i can get forward with my listening.

Thank you already.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 01:15
The Grand Wazoo is what you're looking for. Here's a link!

edit: Also, Joe's Garage (the full album) is a very very silly rock opera. But it is very good. Easy to listen to, and funny.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 01:20
The Grand Wazoo
Waka/Jawaka
Roxy & Elsewhere
Make A Jazz Noise Here
Lather (disc 1)


Those are the essentials.

Of course, there is more spread out throughout his discography, particularly on Zappa New York, One Size Fits All, and The Best Band You've Never Seen.

Some others of interest would be the posthumous albums Imaginary Diseases and Wazoo, these are the live albums of Zappa's "Wazoo" bands, the latter being the full "Grand Wazoo" band, the former being the "Petite Wazoo" band. Can't miss these, as there is more new music and improv.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 05:31
The Grand Wazoo is absolutely mindblowing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 06:27
Zappa in New York is exceptional.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 06:32
Despite a couple of doo-woop / r&b songs, I think Burnt Weeny Sandwich should be a good addition too
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 09:07
"Imaginary Diseases" by Frank Zappa with the great Jim Gordon who was the most "in demand" studio drummer in the 60's and 70's in the entire music industry. I actually never heard him do anything serious with his drum playing until I heard this Zappa title. This is a must if you enjoy his instrumental work.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 10:07
Thank you for your answers! I think i'll now have stuff to listen for at least a week :D. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 10:30
One Size Fits All is superb. Granted, there is a fair amount of humour in it, but trust me when I say it does not hinder the quality of the album in any way. It makes it even better! 

Weasels Ripped My Flesh is also another one of my favourites, and I do recommend it. But it's very funny in places, and that's not what you're after, right?  LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 10:37
My newest Zappa is the live Wazoo, which is pretty good.  I didn't know Greggery Peccary started out as an instrumental.

I don't even have the Grand one yet...



Edited by Slartibartfast - November 24 2011 at 06:58
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 11:32
Oh, humour is fine, and probably makes the album just better. I just meant that i don't want it to be all "let me take you the beach"!:D (which is by the way a song I actually like a lot)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 11:51
Originally posted by finjuanican finjuanican wrote:

Oh, humour is fine, and probably makes the album just better. I just meant that i don't want it to be all "let me take you the beach"!:D (which is by the way a song I actually like a lot)

Oh nah, the two albums I suggested are not like that. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 16:17
In addition to the others mentioned, "Uncle Meat".
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 19:11
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

My newest Zappa is the live Wazoo, which is pretty good.  I didn't know Greggery Peccary started out as an instrumental.


Bits and pieces of it turned up on the bootleg Piquantique (part of the first Beat the Boots!).  Recording quality's abysmal tho.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2011 at 20:59
Originally posted by daslaf daslaf wrote:

Despite a couple of doo-woop / r&b songs, I think Burnt Weeny Sandwich should be a good addition too


This is what I was gonna say... I've been really enjoying that album lately. The doo wop songs are just the intro/outro and they're just short enough to be fun without becoming obnoxious. The rest of the album is top notch avant-fusion Zappa.Approve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2011 at 06:10
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Zappa in New York is exceptional.


Indeed it is - I'd also recommend 'Sleep Dirt', if only for 'The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution'

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2011 at 06:54
Oh we shouldn't forget about this one:

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2011 at 07:40
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by daslaf daslaf wrote:

Despite a couple of doo-woop / r&b songs, I think Burnt Weeny Sandwich should be a good addition too


This is what I was gonna say... I've been really enjoying that album lately. The doo wop songs are just the intro/outro and they're just short enough to be fun without becoming obnoxious. The rest of the album is top notch avant-fusion Zappa.Approve

Yeah it's a great record... I think it's more chamber oriented than jazz-wise, but you know, drawing a line trying to define some kind of classification on Zappa´s music it's almost impossible, since he goes from one style to another 




Edited by daslaf - November 24 2011 at 07:41
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If you ask me  Every song from Frank Zappa is awesome 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2011 at 12:47
Check out the Best Band You've Never Heard in Your Life double set. 
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