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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Hey John about that Can...
Seeing as it´s getting a bit late over here - the night is black, and I mean black - here where I live now has little or no street lighting at night, and looking outside is like looking through tar, -but yeah seeing as it is getting late, I need something soothing from that Can, and I´m putting on Future Days. I find that record highly soothing and beautiful. Earlier on I played Monster Movie and it got me dancing like Yogi bear - not one I´d suggest myself now though... Wouldn´t want to keep myself up all nightBig smile
Love Monster Movie ! I'm going to start with Delay 1968 with Mr.Moody on vocals then hit Monster Move,Sountracks and so on.Should be a blast.



Nice oneCool I like your recent approach John - getting back to those classic albums. I mean we get pretty obscure from time to time in here (maybe the only places for obscure material these days are those genre appreciation threads such as RPI, Zeuhl and this one), but it sure is nice to get back to some albums that you know like the back of your hand, but just haven´t gotten around to play for the better part of a year. I have that with Tago Mago actually, so I´m putting that on, since we´re talking about Can.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2011 at 14:26
The Krautrock Space on the 2. page? I don´t think so...

Electric Sandwich anyone? It´s a real tasty affair - just be careful of the live wires:


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It's getting colder, and I'm feeling like some electric kraut sounds. Listening to a lot of Popol Vuh, and Faust. Want to get into Tangerine Dream.
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I wish i could find Krautrock more like Can. Awesome musicians and Tago Mago is great.

Any suggestions?

Prefer English vocals. Hope this doesn't limit the genre too much.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mellotron Storm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2011 at 21:06
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I wish i could find Krautrock more like Can. Awesome musicians and Tago Mago is great.

Any suggestions?

Prefer English vocals. Hope this doesn't limit the genre too much.

I hope someone can help you but i honestly think CAN are unique in the Krautrock genre.I mean who grooves like CAN does right ? 
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Yarly.
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He's right, there really is no comparison. Have you tried Omar Rodriquez-Lopez' collaboration with Damo Suzuki? It'd probably be right up your alley.
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The only bands that have successfully merged the Can Sound into their own, from what I've heard that is, are Americans Cul de Sac( I have their Ecim album or Mice as some call it), and French band Circle. Circle's Guillotine is definitely a brilliant and modern take on Can with loads of Damo like vocals. Both these albums should please the Can fan, especially if they aren't lost in the 70s...
I'd post some vids, but right now I'm on my iPhone, and it is a pain in the ass. All I will say to you guys is: get these albums - I certainly haven't looked back.
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That electric sandwich is tasty.
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Originally posted by The Wrinkler The Wrinkler wrote:

That electric sandwich is tasty.
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Neu! are somewhat similar to Can at times. Silver Apples are not on PA but they sound like an influence on Can and possibly other Kraut bands...
 
 
 
 
 
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^I love those apples! Got that album some years ago and it still blows me away.

I found some YouTube bites of both Cul de Sac and Circle:





For some reason I had Circle picked as Frenchmen, but they´re FinnishEmbarrassed

Listening to Guillotine right now, and yesterday I had a day of tuning completely out, with a massive hangover, to Between´s And the waters openedBig smile
In Denmark the holidays such as Christmas and Easter are really just an excuse to get drunk and eat meat...


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I'll support the nomination for Cul De Sac, they even made a full album with Damo (their last).





The whole of the early post rock movement was strongly influenced by Krautrock and Can.



Omar Rodriguez Lopez of The Mars Volta has this track on one of his early solo albums...



... which he later reworked with Damo and rereleased it as an EP:




Nu & Apa Neagră are a Romanian band more on the Yatha Sidhra / Popol Vuh side of Kraut who recently collaborated with Damo. I hope they recorded something.




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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Circle


Have their early records as CD's, and like them, though I have not bothered my own mind consideringd them personally with "krautrock movement", more like just very prolific underground psych band from the local area.
I'm very happy of their success and recognition outside this foggy country with population matching the size of a city.
If liked, I would suggest checking out something from their other projects, Pharaoh Overlord (video below), Ektroverde, maybe also Plain Ride.
A randomly selected Pharaoh Overlord concert video:



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I need to  get me some CIRCLE. There was a Free Jazz band named CIRCLE from the early seventies with some heavyweights playing on it like Chick Corea and Dave Holland i believe.But yeah i need some Finnish CIRCLE.
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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

I need to  get me some CIRCLE.


Talked to my friend who is quite educated with Circle's discography, and he suggested for a krauthead albums "Taantumus", "Forest", "Zopalki", "Arkades", "Miljard" and "Prospekt".
From them I have listened and reviewed Zopalki, I wonder if this review enlightens the album in satisfying way.

I think their discography is quite vivid and large, containing both interesting and bit confusing elements for my ears.
Went once to their concert, where the first thrid was kind of avantgarde heavymetal parody, second third really quiet celestial ambient, and last third one-key hazy stoner rock elevation.

Maybe from this random video one can hunt down other YouTube uploads of the band:



I would also recommend Ektroverde from these Circle musicians, I think their album "Ukkossalama" is mostly focused to the "krautish" traits.



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Mmmhh I need some Circle too...

But for now, I´ll settle for this alluring n´ jazzy kraut gem:


I really love the naive feel of this record( thanks John), the whole thing feels like sitting on the floor in some obscure studio in Germany during the 70s. With thick weed smoke everywhere and people lying all over you - the sounds of the music just feel honest and live - like they had no real need for engineers or other silly things. It´s "right in the moment" music and it´s heartfelt - and certainly floats my boat.
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Hi, just joined the forum. You have the Krautrocksampler type music pretty well covered, do you consider groups such as Birth Control, Eloy and Frumpy to fall into the Krautrock genre? I've only become aware of these, and many others, over the last year since spotting the "Krautrock - music for your brain" box sets.
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Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

Hi, just joined the forum. You have the Krautrocksampler type music pretty well covered, do you consider groups such as Birth Control, Eloy and Frumpy to fall into the Krautrock genre? I've only become aware of these, and many others, over the last year since spotting the "Krautrock - music for your brain" box sets.



Hi there and welcome to the site!
Always nice to see someone new who´s into Krautrock - we are after all not the biggest of crowds...
As a matter of fact, I am listening to Birth Control´s Plastic People at the moment, but would think they were more of a Heavy prog band( don´t worry, when you´ve been here for a while - you´ll start talking with stickers applied to your words, but anyhow what matters is the music) Eloy´s 3 first albums I myself consider very close to the Krautrock tradition, and I especially like Inside and Floating for their - well yeah floating texture and psychedelic tendencies. After that they moved into those Floydian soundscapes combining symphonic with psych, and quite well too, but my faves have always been those 2 gems. Just my preference thoughBig smile

BTW I don´t personally have that compilation but just checked out what artists are featured on there, and if you´re looking to go get some albums from the bands, then out of those mentioned on the front cover: Grobschnitt, Embryo, Jane and Schulze are probably the ones that get closest to Kraut on some albums. (Can, LA Düsseldorf, Eroc - these are all tagged as Kraut here at PA and comes highly recommended) Grobschnitt´s Solar Music Live, The first 4 or 5 albums by Embryo are Kraut to me personally, Jane´s Gravedigger contains a 20 min floating gem which comes very close to the genre, and Schulze - although not entirely rock still manages to conjure up some pretty experimental and trippy music that´ll send you packing in the milkyway. Frumpy I don´t know actually, but John(Mellotron Storm) probably knows themLOL
I´m sorry if this sounds a bit weird, but outside this website there´s a lot of people and labels naming everything German from the 70s Krautrock, but that is not how we roll up in hereLOL It´s a cosmische thing based a lot around improv, psychedelia and the trip of the music. Many of the artists such as Wallenstein and Lucifer´s Friend were more heavy rocking bands that had little to do with the scene.
Alright - I´m sorry if I came across as some kind of stuck up connoisseur, that was not my intentions thoughEmbarrassed
Again - welcome to the site, I hope you´ll visit us here in the Krautrock Space from time to time.
Cheers!
David


Edited by Guldbamsen - December 03 2011 at 18:35
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Thanks for the explanation David. Those are also my favourite Eloy albums and I intend to fill in the gaps between Birth Control's Operation and Plastic People in the near future, but I can see the logic in restricting Krautrock to the experimental / alternative music rather than German rock in general. Indeed this definition makes my taste in prog rock much more varied than it might previously have appearedWink
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