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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: November 14 2011 at 21:33 |
Cheers everyone! One for the Vine certainly is stunning and deservedly in front at the moment
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The Miracle
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Posted: November 14 2011 at 21:55 |
One for the Vine for me too. It's a masterful mini-epic, one of the finest songs Banks ever wrote is not the finest. It's my least favorite Hackett era album to be honest (excluding FGTR). It's still a 4 star album and I love it but the others are just too good.
Edited by The Miracle - November 14 2011 at 21:56
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Wanorak
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Posted: November 14 2011 at 22:09 |
...In That Quiet Earth for me though the last three songs should be grouped as one. IMO possibly the best trio of songs they put together. Definately one of the best instrumental efforts by the group!
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twosteves
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Posted: November 14 2011 at 22:34 |
[QUOTE=The Miracle]
One for the Vine for me too. It's a masterful mini-epic, one of the finest songs Banks ever wrote is not the finest. Banks has said many times it's his favorite Genesis album---(he wrote most of it) he also said Hackett has some of his best moments (not true IMO) so he was surprised he quit the group shortly thereafter---
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Progosopher
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Posted: November 14 2011 at 23:53 |
Mellotron Storm wrote:
One of my least favourite GENESIS albums.I guess Afterglow but this album really bores me. |
One of MY very favorite Genesis albums. Afterglow is okay, but I voted All In a Mouses Night. The music is great, it tells a story, and has that most rare quality in Prog - humor. They made something mundane magical on that one. Unquiet Slumbers...In That Quiet Earth is a great instrumental pair. Eleventh Early of Mar is also a great track.
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richardh
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 01:44 |
Solid album and of the post Gabriel albums probably the most 'progressive'. That doesn't make it my favourite though (ATOTT)
I voted for Blood On The Rooftops. The guitar intro is sheer heaven and the use of Mellotron plus Phil's soulfull vocals are rather wonderfull. An absolute gem.
The studio versions of One For The Vine and Afterglow were eclipsed by the live versions imo. The instrumental section in OFTV always disappoints me compared to what they did with it live.I also much prefer Afterglow coming off the back of In The Cage and Slippermen.
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 01:53 |
Best track for me is 'One for the vine' A Banks classic, and possibly one of the best things he wrote.
The album as a whole is a flawed masterpiece, though. There was no need for 'Wot Gorilla' and 'You're owen special way'
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Icarium
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 02:00 |
I vote for All In a Mouses Night for its wonderfull ending fanfare but also nice verses and bouncy feel
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 02:21 |
Earl Of Mar.....stellar!
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someone_else
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 03:10 |
The best Genesis album after their masterpiece era (from NC to SEbtP). 11th Earl of Mar is my favourite track, followed by Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers ... in that Quiet Earth.
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yanch
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 06:33 |
Wanorak wrote:
...In That Quiet Earth for me though the last three songs should be grouped as one. IMO possibly the best trio of songs they put together. Definately one of the best instrumental efforts by the group! |
This is how I feel too. The way these 3 flow together is excellent.
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treebeard
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 07:14 |
great album, Afterglow for me.. Always wondered how "Please dont touch" would have sounded if the band would have allowed Hacketts track on to the album...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 07:20 |
treebeard wrote:
great album, Afterglow for me.. Always wondered how "Please dont touch" would have sounded if the band would have allowed Hacketts track on to the album... |
Yes, imagine it with Banks and Collins performing.
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zbida
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 08:03 |
Great, beautiful and nostalgic album. I must think it over.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 10:18 |
Blacksword wrote:
Best track for me is 'One for the vine' A Banks classic, and possibly one of the best things he wrote.
The album as a whole is a flawed masterpiece, though. There was no need for 'Wot Gorilla' and 'You're owen special way' |
The case of Wot Gorilla? is amazing, Hackett came with "Please Don't Touch" and apparently due to internal problems, they rejected this song in favor of Wot Gorilla?
For what i know, the relations between Banks and Hackett were very low since Steve released the fantastic Voyage of the Acolyte.
This situation, maxde the band decide to give every member a chance to write at least one song, and Rutherford came with nothing better than "Your Own Special Way"
Steve was a threat to Tony's kingdom as Genesis main composer due to his songwriting capacity discovered in VOTA , but obviously Mike wasn't.. This was one of the reasons why Steve left the band:
What were the primary reasons for your departure from Genesis? It came to a point where I simply couldn’t handle playing “I know what I like in Your Wardrobe” any longer. I also didn’t feel enough of my writing and playing was being included into the music.
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Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - November 15 2011 at 10:18
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twosteves
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 10:43 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
[QUOTE=Blacksword]Best track for me is 'One for the vine' A Banks classic, and possibly one of the best things he wrote.
The album as a whole is a flawed masterpiece, though. There was no need for 'Wot Gorilla' and 'You're owen special way' |
The case of Wot Gorilla? is amazing, Hackett came with "Please Don't Touch" and apparently due to internal problems, they rejected this song in favor of Wot Gorilla?
For what i know, the relations between Banks and Hackett were very low since Steve released the fantastic Voyage of the Acolyte.
This situation, maxde the band decide to give every member a chance to write at least one song, and Rutherford came with nothing better than "Your Own Special Way"
Steve was a threat to Tony's kingdom as Genesis main composer due to his songwriting capacity discovered in VOTA , but obviously Mike wasn't..
This was one of the reasons why Steve left the band:
[quote]What were the primary reasons for your departure from Genesis? It came to a point where I simply couldn’t handle playing “I know what I like in Your Wardrobe” any longer. I also didn’t feel enough of my writing and playing was being included into the music.
I think one of the greatest prog tragedies is the hate Banks has for Hackett---to the degree they never worked together again---they were the perfect prog keys and guitar combo in Genesis and made amazing music. I mean after Phil left the pop group---the ego involved to think they could carry on with CAS---they could have gotten Hackett back and made some real prog knowing they had nothing to prove anymore---but Banks just loves to exclude Hackett.
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The-time-is-now
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 11:16 |
One for the Vine.
No contest.
To me.
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Progfan1958
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 11:19 |
Eleventh Earl Of Mar for me. It's really a shame that they've never released an official live version of this track either !
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progtapper
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 11:55 |
Unquiet Slumbers for the whistlers…
I adore this song. And I don't even need a shower to whistle this one!
My 3 favorite Genesis albums
1. Foxtrot
2. Wind and Wuthering
3. Trespass
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lazland
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Posted: November 15 2011 at 12:35 |
Afterglow, but there is barely a weak moment on this one.
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