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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 19:18 |
Epignosis wrote:
These children I have- and the one I will have, not even having met him or her- are not regrets.
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Your wife is pregnant?
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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TheMasterMofo
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 19:33 |
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I wouldn't ask a girl either. But if we both want it, we decide. Not government. |
And if I want to go kill somebody tonight, I decide, not the government. Only there will be consequences for my actions. I hate government involvement as much as anyone, but one thing government should be involved in is people's right to life.
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 20:01 |
^ in other words government when it does things you agree with-- seems all sides want that
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 20:01 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
These children I have- and the one I will have, not even having met him or her- are not regrets.
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Your wife is pregnant?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 20:52 |
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 21:00 |
Epignosis wrote:
Children piss on the couch and refuse to eat what is good for them and distract you from recording your next album and shriek when you are recording your next album and keep you and your spouse from marital fun and embarrass you in front of other people and are rude to strangers and spit up and cost you a fortune, and require you to get up every other minute and get sick and babble constantly and cry for no apparent reason and repeat you when you utter a profanity and expect you to think that everything in their world is more important than the rent and draw on the walls with crayons and break things and interrupt the preacher and cause you and your spouse to grow irritated with each other and not let you watch movies together and rebel when it's bath time or rebel when it's time to get out and may still not appreciate anything you ever do for them.
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Basically why I don't want children. I'll print this part out and put it on our fridge, just to remind myself and my girlfriend on how blessed we are.
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 21:04 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Children piss on the couch and refuse to eat what is good for them and distract you from recording your next album and shriek when you are recording your next album and keep you and your spouse from marital fun and embarrass you in front of other people and are rude to strangers and spit up and cost you a fortune, and require you to get up every other minute and get sick and babble constantly and cry for no apparent reason and repeat you when you utter a profanity and expect you to think that everything in their world is more important than the rent and draw on the walls with crayons and break things and interrupt the preacher and cause you and your spouse to grow irritated with each other and not let you watch movies together and rebel when it's bath time or rebel when it's time to get out and may still not appreciate anything you ever do for them.
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Basically why I don't want children. I'll print this part out and put it on our fridge, just to remind myself and my girlfriend on how blessed we are.
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Yes but besides that, what have the Romans really done for us?
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 21:24 |
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 21:32 |
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 22:23 |
that's wonderful Rob, congratulations
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 23:32 |
Epignosis wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
These children I have- and the one I will have, not even having met him or her- are not regrets.
| Your wife is pregnant? | Yes. 13 weeks now. |
Congratulations!
I'm very glad to read how happy you are with your children Rob. If I ever have one (or two) I expect to be able to feel the same joy. I would actually look forward for the things you mention in your great paragraph. Just not now man. Again, I don't want to get an abortion, so we protect ourselves. We are really really careful. But in the odd event that measures fail and we are surprised, I want to make my (our) own decision. Again, if it's early.
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 23:34 |
TheMasterMofo wrote:
The T wrote:
I wouldn't ask a girl either. But if we both want it, we decide. Not government. | And if I want to go kill somebody tonight, I decide, not the government. Only there will be consequences for my actions.I hate government involvement as much as anyone, but one thing government should be involved in is people's right to life. |
You don't need government to tell you not to kill. You don't because you know it's not right.
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Posted: November 07 2011 at 23:35 |
Atavachron wrote:
^ in other words government when it does things you agree with-- seems all sides want that
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I actually want no government in every situation. I've arrived to that conclusion.
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TheMasterMofo
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 05:49 |
Atavachron wrote:
^ in other words government when it does things you agree with-- seems all sides want that
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That's a pretty stupid way to take that - no offense - because as you said, it applies to anyone but anarchists.
I certainly don't want anarchy with no laws at all. I want the
government to pretty much leave me and everyone else alone, but in cases
of true crime like murder, robbery, etc. the government does and should
have a role.
The T wrote:
You don't need government to tell you not to kill. You don't because you know it's not right.
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Clearly a lot of people DON'T know that it's not right because people are killed all the time.
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 06:21 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
These children I have- and the one I will have, not even having met him or her- are not regrets.
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Your wife is pregnant?
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Yes. 13 weeks now.
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They aren't regrets because they are children you chose to have. May you all live long and prosper.
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And thank you.
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 06:23 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
These children I have- and the one I will have, not even having met him or her- are not regrets.
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Your wife is pregnant?
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Yes. 13 weeks now.
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Did I know about this? If so I'm sorry for forgetting. Congratulations. Hoping for boy or girl?
| I may have mentioned it once or twice, but maybe not in threads you frequent. As far as gender goes, I almost don't care. My wife wants a boy. I guess I'd want a boy too only because of logistics (our son has the bigger of the two children's bedrooms) and that we already have a name chosen for him (but are not settled on a female's name). Other than that though, I don't care.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 06:34 |
Are you guys stopping at three (I think this is three for you)? I'm the middle one of three, my wife's an only.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 11:28 |
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 12:28 |
I hate arriving late at parties ... anyways, here's some off the cuff comments:
- What kind of abortions are we talking about? It makes a huge difference. - Is abortion like murder? Then why are most people who are against it not demanding that it's treated like murder by the justice system. - At which point does a unborn life become a human being? At the point of conception - at 150 cells - at 6 months?
My opinion: Every woman should have the right to chose to have an early term abortion (e.g. up to nine weeks into the pregnancy). More important is education about (and access to means of) birth control instead of religiously motivated crap like abstinence only education, by which the need to choose can usually be avoided in the first place.
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Posted: November 08 2011 at 12:31 |
Abortion is legal here as it should be.
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