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    Posted: November 01 2011 at 19:43
This is a very heated discussion now in Argentina, and I'd really like to know your opinion.

I know that this may become a heated thread as well, I'm simply asking for your opinion, if possible, with justification.

And yes, I also know that it varies in different contexts, politics, religion, etc, include whatever you want for your justification. 

Should ABORTION be legalized or not?

Thanks!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:00
Abortion breaks my heart.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:02
Murder is defined as "The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse." Murder is illegal. Because abortion involves the destruction of a living thing (indisputable) that is created by two human beings (indisputable) and is born a human being (indisputable) and lives the life of a human being (indisputable), it can only be assumed that abortion is the destruction of a human being. I've never heard of a human giving birth to a dog, an elephant, or a mouse, though that would be interesting.

Because of this, abortion is defined as murder.

Murder is (and should be) illegal.

Abortion should be illegal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:05
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:14
I feel this is not a thread that we need to have.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:15
I would keep abortion legal.  I wish people were more responsible though so that the numbers were far less.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:17
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I would keep abortion legal.  I wish people were more responsible though so that the numbers were far less.  


I wish that rapists would be more responsible, too. But what can you do? Some rapists are just going to act immature. At least they're not as childish as burglers, though. They can be so selfish! They act like everything belongs to them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:26
Since babies don't have a soul, abortion is no worse than killing a small animal or a plant or a mushroom, but I'm fine with it being illegal.

Oh, wait, it's not illegal . . . Well, I'm fine with that also.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:31
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Abortion breaks my heart.


Yes but it also breaks my heart when a baby is born unwanted by it's parents.

It's really up to the parents.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:34
Of course abortion should be legal, it's unfortunate the question even has to be raised.   BTW, I love it when those who hold personal freedoms to be most dear actively oppose it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:34
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I feel this is not a thread that we need to have.


Any sensible person on this forum must feel the same.
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to see this thread closed in a couple of hours.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:36
If I own an airplane, and mid-flight a passenger becomes unwanted, may I then throw him out?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:37
I think it should be legalized.

There are so many responsibilities with a child, and some parents just know they are unfit parents or are unprepared to devote their lives to a child with a disorder like Downs.




Edited by Horizons - November 01 2011 at 20:37
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:37
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I feel this is not a thread that we need to have.


Any sensible person on this forum must feel the same.
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to see this thread closed in a couple of hours.



It's been discussed numerous times in other threads.  We all survived.  *Most* people are able to have a debate without the cheap shots.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:38
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Abortion breaks my heart.


Yes but it also breaks my heart when a baby is born unwanted by it's parents.

It's really up to the parents.


I am related to children who were unwanted by their parents.  I am happy those folks at least let them be adopted.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:41
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

If I own an airplane, and mid-flight a passenger becomes unwanted, may I then throw him out?


Hey that's my analogy :(
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:44
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

If I own an airplane, and mid-flight a passenger becomes unwanted, may I then throw him out?


Hey that's my analogy :(


Nuh-uh.  Yours involved a spaceship.  Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:45
 
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I feel this is not a thread that we need to have.

Any sensible person on this forum must feel the same.
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to see this thread closed in a couple of hours.

It's been discussed numerous times in other threads.  We all survived.  *Most* people are able to have a debate without the cheap shots.

No, nothing good has ever come from any abortion thread on any forum.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:46
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I feel this is not a thread that we need to have.

Any sensible person on this forum must feel the same.
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to see this thread closed in a couple of hours.

It's been discussed numerous times in other threads.  We all survived.  *Most* people are able to have a debate without the cheap shots.

No, nothing good has ever come from any abortion thread on any forum.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2011 at 20:48
Fun thread.
 
A vote for legal.
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