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Points: 1433 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 15:29

It takes time to build up the reputation that the top ten have. They weren't so "holy" in 1973. In about 40 years you'll get a better picture of how deserving albums from the past decade have been of such ratings. Of course, the "classic" albums will then be 80 years old, and probably rated even higher by then. But it does balance out over time.

Remember that rock music, in general, is still very young.


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Neal Morse rules period!!! Constantly puts out the most quality prog with lyrics that transcend everything!!!! The man is a legend.
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 16:47
The greats are great because their music has been out there for a while and the music stood up to the test of time.  Time will have to tell for the new comers.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 16:56
I remember massive foaming when TAAB or SEbtP were taking the #1 spot from CttE. Break and change and refresh what top now?
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Points: 11420 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 17:03
Why do those who otherwise espouse democratic outcomes only complain when the results don't suit them?
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Points: 3595 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 17:17
I wouldn't mind it if, for an April Fool's joke, they put Love Beach, Momentary Lapse, or a Dolly Pardon album for the number 1 spot. That'd mess with some people. 
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Why do those who otherwise espouse democratic outcomes only complain when the results don't suit them?
Well, because the outcomes don't suit them.


Edited by Slartibartfast - October 29 2011 at 17:17
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Why do those who otherwise espouse democratic outcomes only complain when the results don't suit them?

Is there somebody complaining? Is it not a facet of democracy that the right to complain exists?
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I like complaining. 
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Why do those who otherwise espouse democratic outcomes only complain when the results don't suit them?

Is there somebody complaining? Is it not a facet of democracy that the right to complain exists?


I never heard of a Monarchy being 'voted out' c/f dethroned. Your OP states
Like the ten commandments, are they written in stone?

This type of rhetorical question is hardly indicative of someone completely at ease with the analogy of the immutable being trumped by contemporary Progressive musicians is it?
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Hardly seems  worth arguing about. I posted a topic for discussion not a statement of my political beliefs. At the end of the day I really could care less what other people say are the best ten albums, they will never be the same as mine.
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Points: 3595 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 18:24
^This is what it sounds like when doves feign indifference. 
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Points: 5319 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 18:37
^This is what it sounds like when strangers show ignorance
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Points: 3595 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 18:42
^This is what it sounds like when human beings and frightened and defensive, when in our world of disparate emotions we forget that we, each and all, are still living, breathing beings.

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Great Philosophy
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Gentemen please, (Timothy Leary & Alitaire), this has degenerated into sniping so desist.

The premise of the thread is sound i.e. can we envisage any contemporary Prog or previously obscure Prog bands supplanting the usual suspects at the summit of the PA charts?

I just think the OP could have been worded better as many might deem it a tad inflammatory, that's allBig smile)
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My top 10 are in no order:
 
thick as a brick-jethro tull(1972)
greenslade-greenslade(1972)
in the land of grey and pink-caravan(1971) including bonus track frozen rose
moonmadness-camel(1976)
power and the glory-gentle giant(1974)
godbluff-van der graaf generator(1975)
rotters club-hatfield and the north(1975)
1001 degrees centigrades-magma(1971)
the yes album-yes(1970)
rush-hemispheres(1978)
 
albums to just miss out were:
 
foxtrot-genesis(1972)
king crimson-in the wake of poseidon(1970)
frank zappa-over nite sensation(1973)
zao-osiris(1974)
banco-io sono nato libero(1973)
emerson lake and palmer-emerson lake and palmer(1971)
egg-the polite force(1971)
national health-national health(1977)
deep purple-machine head(1972) including bonus track when a blind man cries
black sabbath-sabbath bloody sabbath(1973)
 
etc Tongue


Edited by dr prog - October 29 2011 at 19:44
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Points: 152 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 21:23
I also think comes down to the cycle thing, and also the fact that there are a lot of people that only really want to hear the general "classic prog" style and aren't so open to new styles of prog. I think a lot of these people can be compared to people who only like Beethoven and Mozart because they like that consonant sound and therefore find, say, Stravinsky or even Berlioz unacceptable, or sub-par at best. Thus, Stravinsky, or really any composer for that matter will always be considered beneath Beethoven really just because Beethoven came to be so widely known for progressing music more than anyone else did, even his predecessors that influenced him. That's why the Beatles won't go away either, they did that to rock music in general, and the prog bands did it for the prog style. Makes sense to me anyway. Tongue


Edited by Isa - October 29 2011 at 21:27
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Points: 952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 21:45
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

It takes time to build up the reputation that the top ten have. They weren't so "holy" in 1973. In about 40 years you'll get a better picture of how deserving albums from the past decade have been of such ratings. Of course, the "classic" albums will then be 80 years old, and probably rated even higher by then. But it does balance out over time.

Remember that rock music, in general, is still very young.



Well said
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Points: 3595 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2011 at 22:57
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Gentemen please, (Timothy Leary & Alitaire), this has degenerated into sniping so desist.

The premise of the thread is sound i.e. can we envisage any contemporary Prog or previously obscure Prog bands supplanting the usual suspects at the summit of the PA charts?

I just think the OP could have been worded better as many might deem it a tad inflammatory, that's allBig smile)

I was sincere in what I proclaimed. I meant no malice or mean-spiritedness. 
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