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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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The Doctor ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
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I never said I wasn't in favor of copulation. Just, that certain people shouldn't do it.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Ok good Doc let's not hijack another thread
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The Doctor ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
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Fair enough. But yes, I do think it's abusive to give your child that kind of name. But then I think it's abusive for those Aussie parents who wanted to name their child Superman. That's just asking for your child to be beaten up on a daily basis.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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^I think nobody should want to beat up a child named Superman
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Suppose you named your child "Cyrus Worthington Black." Then, three weeks after the child was born, a man named "Cyrus Worthington" makes huge news by bombing fourteen Chicago buildings in the same day, killing an estimated 1,700 people. Are you then guilty of child abuse for your child's name? |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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I usually don't agree with you, but my wife's uncle and aunt are foster parents...the stories I've heard sometimes make me wish for forced sterilization. |
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34083 |
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it is like every who after 22/7 with the name Anders Breivik gott hate mails and death threats for their names, should everyone named Anders changed name then
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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Not sure how that applies to Doc's position, Rob. It's not intentionally giving your child the name of a hugely controversial figure, which is obviously not OK.
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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It applies: What I'm interested to know is vested in that qualifier you just used. Is it the name itself that makes it child abuse, or is it the motivation of the parents? If a couple who'd honestly never heard of Adolf Hitler named their child that, would that be child abuse? Just participating in and exploring the topic. ![]() |
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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^ I think it would be unintentional abuse. :P
But that's a completely hypothetical situation, the chances for a, say, Mr. & Mrs Schmidt couple naming their child Adolf Hitler Schmidt without knowing who Adolf Hitler was are zero IMO. Edited by harmonium.ro - October 29 2011 at 10:08 |
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34083 |
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i wonder how far into the future the name Adolf Hitler (shudders) is not linked to a megalomania and genocide or the Swastica is not rememberd as a logo for the same thing, will it ever/never be okey to have it on a CD cover-art work or will it forever be labeld as a symbol of nazisme even in year 4000 or 5000, if humanity come so far
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Not zero- stranger things have happened. |
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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Should have said "virtually zero", indeed.
Gypsy people do that - they give the name and the surname of a famous figure for their child's name, often with hilarious results. My parents encountered many such children when they were working at the local school for children with disabilities. Hitler wasn't one of them, though, even they know he's not OK, I gather. Iuri Gagarin was a favourite, or classical musicians.
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I honestly think it's awful when parents give their child a perfectly normal name with an ridiculous spelling. That individual will have to spell out his or her name every time.
Also, one of my students is named Garnea. It is pronounced "Zhuh-nay." ![]() |
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In this case, however, the chances are zero. Their two other children are called JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Nations and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
OK, I’m sure you knew – but it’s kind of sick, isn’t it? |
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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
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it is the same story with the name Judas, no one names their kid with that name even if the guy who had the name supposedly died 2011 years ago or so, stil it is not a popular name to many persons, why arent people braking the mold and naming their kid Judas then it is a okey name i think...
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I don't know about this case, but there are some people out there who simply should never be allowed to be parents again. I think those who physically or sexually abuse their children should have their rights permanently taken away. Why should they be able to have more children to abuse. |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Intention is almost always relevant to a criminal act. Child abuse is no different. For example, if I pick up my child and throw him to the ground - that's abuse. If I pick up my child and while holding him/her lose my footing or balance and drop the child - the injuries may be the same, but there was no intent to harm the child and therefore, no abuse. In the extremely unlikely event that someone had never heard of Hitler, but named their child Adolph Hitler, no it would not be abuse. Simply ignorance. |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Hello, name's Adam, pronounced "Timmy"
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