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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 10:33
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I see Occupy Oakland, has turned ugly. Flash/bang grenades, batons, tear gas etc..

The British occupy movement is camping outside St Pauls Cathedral for some inexplicable reason, and they've refused to move, althogh they've agreed to re-arrange the tent 'layout' I suppose they'd be better off occupying Canary Wharf, although I expect that would be prevented, by force.
 
This morning supposedly Occupy Seattle group has voted to move their occupation to Seattle Central Community College campus. The school has issued a public letter stating.." you are not welcomed on our campus, camping is not allowed here." Reports say they expected support from the students and faculty.........
 
They VOTED to move???!!!!! What the krapp........these people need to go home before someone gets hurt
 
I'm sure there are plenty of fine campgrounds in the area, but they would have to pay to camp.  If I were on the other side, I'd just wait the protesters out until the weather got too cold.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 10:41
^ No...because then they would be taking the city resources that are directed to the true homeless when weather gets cold here and rainy nasty. Food banks, churches, non profits, individuals who every year help those true homeless community survive the winters in the city, these Occupy people will also be holding out their hand....since I guess they feel they deserve it.
 
And yes there are tons of camp sites here in Washington......we have a big one and its called the Cascade Mountain region, nobody will bother them there......."in the forest, nobody will hear you scream (or protest)......."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 10:53
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Exxon Mobil reported quarterly earnings of US$10.3billion, up 41% from previous year.....Is this what Occupy people are pissed about?

Probably.  They'll also tweet or FB post about it on devices made by a company that just reported quarterly earnings of almost $29 billion.


And call to reelect a president who's been financed and pursues economic and foreign policy aimed at pleasing his baking and oil interest.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 10:54
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I see Occupy Oakland, has turned ugly. Flash/bang grenades, batons, tear gas etc..

The British occupy movement is camping outside St Pauls Cathedral for some inexplicable reason, and they've refused to move, althogh they've agreed to re-arrange the tent 'layout' I suppose they'd be better off occupying Canary Wharf, although I expect that would be prevented, by force.


It's not ugly yet. It's just standard government anti-dissent measures. It will get ugly when all of this comes to a head and some cop gets scared, and nervous, and accidentally discharges his gun.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 11:14
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Exxon Mobil reported quarterly earnings of US$10.3billion, up 41% from previous year.....Is this what Occupy people are pissed about?

Probably.  They'll also tweet or FB post about it on devices made by a company that just reported quarterly earnings of almost $29 billion.


And call to reelect a president who's been financed and pursues economic and foreign policy aimed at pleasing his baking and oil interest.
 
I didn't know the president baked?? That's his problem..he spends too much time in the kitchen. I wonder what kind of oil he uses in his baking??
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 11:40
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Exxon Mobil reported quarterly earnings of US$10.3billion, up 41% from previous year.....Is this what Occupy people are pissed about?

Probably.  They'll also tweet or FB post about it on devices made by a company that just reported quarterly earnings of almost $29 billion.

I couldn't help but review this discrepancy...I think what we're actually talking about is net revenue (profit), in which case Apple made around $6.6 billion from $28.2 billion in total revenue.  There was no way Apple's profit was 300% of Exxon's.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 11:47
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Exxon Mobil reported quarterly earnings of US$10.3billion, up 41% from previous year.....Is this what Occupy people are pissed about?

Probably.  They'll also tweet or FB post about it on devices made by a company that just reported quarterly earnings of almost $29 billion.

I couldn't help but review this discrepancy...I think what we're actually talking about is net revenue (profit), in which case Apple made around $6.6 billion from $28.2 billion in total revenue.  There was no way Apple's profit was 300% of Exxon's.
 
That should make the Occupy people feel better......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 11:55
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Exxon Mobil reported quarterly earnings of US$10.3billion, up 41% from previous year.....Is this what Occupy people are pissed about?

Probably.  They'll also tweet or FB post about it on devices made by a company that just reported quarterly earnings of almost $29 billion.

I couldn't help but review this discrepancy...I think what we're actually talking about is net revenue (profit), in which case Apple made around $6.6 billion from $28.2 billion in total revenue.  There was no way Apple's profit was 300% of Exxon's.
 
That should make the Occupy people feel better......

It shouldn't.

Exxon Mobil Corporation Profit Margin: 8.5%

Apple Profit Margin: 23.4%
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 11:57
^ Maybe someone should tweet and ask them?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 12:10
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Exxon Mobil reported quarterly earnings of US$10.3billion, up 41% from previous year.....Is this what Occupy people are pissed about?

Probably.  They'll also tweet or FB post about it on devices made by a company that just reported quarterly earnings of almost $29 billion.


And call to reelect a president who's been financed and pursues economic and foreign policy aimed at pleasing his baking and oil interest.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 12:28
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Exxon Mobil reported quarterly earnings of US$10.3billion, up 41% from previous year.....Is this what Occupy people are pissed about?


Probably.  They'll also tweet or FB post about it on devices made by a company that just reported quarterly earnings of almost $29 billion.
And call to reelect a president who's been financed and pursues economic and foreign policy aimed at pleasing his baking and oil interest.

 
None who's not suffering from schizophrenia, even Che Guevara, can dislike the taste of Coca Cola (or chocolate - yes Shields. You taste-criminal )
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 15:20
The DJI is up 300 points today......they should all go home now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 15:28
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The DJI is up 300 points today......they should all go home now.
Wow.  I got an email this morning that the Dow was down 350 points this morning.  I almost jumped out the window.  Good thing that I didn't.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 15:34
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The DJI is up 300 points today......they should all go home now.
Wow.  I got an email this morning that the Dow was down 350 points this morning.  I almost jumped out the window.  Good thing that I didn't.

I would hope not, even if it did it's just a 3% drop.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 15:39
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Exxon Mobil reported quarterly earnings of US$10.3billion, up 41% from previous year.....Is this what Occupy people are pissed about?

Probably.  They'll also tweet or FB post about it on devices made by a company that just reported quarterly earnings of almost $29 billion.

I couldn't help but review this discrepancy...I think what we're actually talking about is net revenue (profit), in which case Apple made around $6.6 billion from $28.2 billion in total revenue.  There was no way Apple's profit was 300% of Exxon's.
 
That should make the Occupy people feel better......

It shouldn't.

Exxon Mobil Corporation Profit Margin: 8.5%

Apple Profit Margin: 23.4%

Also, consider the pollution that Apple causes in some of their manufacturing plants overseas and the amount of worker exploitation they do....Confused

Check this out:http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/mar/01/apple-ipod

I know it's the Guardian, but there's some truth to it.



Edited by King of Loss - October 27 2011 at 15:45
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 15:48
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The DJI is up 300 points today......they should all go home now.
Wow.  I got an email this morning that the Dow was down 350 points this morning.  I almost jumped out the window.  Good thing that I didn't.

I would hope not, even if it did it's just a 3% drop.
 
Yes but he is part of the "1%"....so that 3% is billions to his portfolio, which he stole from you and I!!!
!!B***ard!!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 15:50
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The DJI is up 300 points today......they should all go home now.
Wow.  I got an email this morning that the Dow was down 350 points this morning.  I almost jumped out the window.  Good thing that I didn't.

I would hope not, even if it did it's just a 3% drop.
 
Yes but he is part of the "1%"....so that 3% is billions to his portfolio, which he stole from you and I!!!
!!B***ard!!
 
LOL
Nah.  I'm like in the 2%. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 16:45
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Exxon Mobil reported quarterly earnings of US$10.3billion, up 41% from previous year.....Is this what Occupy people are pissed about?


This isn't an attempt to exonerate exxon (that sounds nice), but I would like to say these numbers are kinda stupid.

The first is that earnings can mean a lot of things in business. Secondly, it's just a raw number of a gigantic corporation and a number too big for most people to properly interpret. Secondly, a percent increase is really context dependent. If Exxon's earnings had tanked the year before, 41% increase could be a relatively modest correction to its norm.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 17:18
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

a number too big for most people to properly interpret.
LOL
Actually I share your faith in most people.
You have to put it terms of dollar bills stacked to the moon or something like that.

OWS isnt anti-corporation
They're just anti-corporate crime

 
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I heard Dennis Prager falsely label the Occupy Wall Street movement as being "anti-corporate" then,
using this straw man argument, he pointed out the hypocrisy of various protesters communicating their
anti-corporate views using their corporate-manufactured smartphones.

This misleading attack from Prager was followed by Bill O'Reilly's "Talking Points Memo" in which
O'Reilly warned his listeners that OWS was becoming violent -- an obvious attempt to project the violent
rhetoric of the tea party onto the OWS movement. O'Reilly's only example of protester violence was a
story about how a participant's dog's tooth became hooked onto the cuff of a police officer's shirt.

Stop the presses and hide the children! A slightly ripped cuff!

Meanwhile, police officers are attacking and beating protesters within an inch of their lives, and just
today a man was critically injured when he was shot in the head with a tear gas projectile by Oakland police.



The victim, Scott Olsen, is an Iraq war veteran. He fought to bring freedom to Iraq only to be wounded
for exercising his right to assemble here at home.

The Wall Street Journal conducted a poll recently that asked OWS supporters, "What frustrates you the most about the political process in the United States?" Only three percent said "the democratic/capitalist system." Three percent. The poll also asked supporters what they hope the movement will achieve and only four percent wanted the "dissolution" of the capitalist system.

The movement is opposed to deregulated, free market capitalism. Short of Ron Paul disciples and Ayn Rand cultists, no reasonable American wants a system in which Enron, Goldman Sachs, AIG or BP can commit heinous crimes and not pay the price. According to Gallup, 68 percent of Americans want corporations to have less influence in America. That doesn't mean a supermajority of Americans are anti-corporation, it simply means that a supermajority of Americans agree that corporations have acquired too much power and therefore ought to be reined in. Not banished or banned, just watched more closely.

The OWS movement, like the American people, isn't anti-corporate, it's anti-corporate crime.




Edited by Slartibartfast - October 27 2011 at 17:26
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2011 at 17:41
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Exxon Mobil reported quarterly earnings of US$10.3billion, up 41% from previous year.....Is this what Occupy people are pissed about?


This isn't an attempt to exonerate exxon (that sounds nice), but I would like to say these numbers are kinda stupid.

The first is that earnings can mean a lot of things in business. Secondly, it's just a raw number of a gigantic corporation and a number too big for most people to properly interpret. Secondly, a percent increase is really context dependent. If Exxon's earnings had tanked the year before, 41% increase could be a relatively modest correction to its norm.
 
I don't understand how they are stupid numbers...unless you are implying that they really only made $2billion and they are being stupid by exaggerating their earnings?.......I seriously doubt Exxon is the next Enron, especially when it comes to reporting earnings.
With Sarbanes-Oxley act these public companies risk a lot if they think they can manipulate books, the govt or the public anymore.
True I don't have the full report in front of me with a balance sheet and I suspect this is earnings before interest, taxes and an assortment of other fees/charges.
But I suspect its a good number.
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