Forum Home Forum Home > Topics not related to music > General discussions
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - "Occupy" Protests
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic Closed"Occupy" Protests

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 45678 49>
Author
Message
manofmystery View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 4335
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:13
Hey, a reasoned look at both the tea party and occupy wall street:


Time always wins.
Back to Top
JJLehto View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Status: Offline
Points: 34550
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:14
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:


I think we need to cut spending before we lower taxes. Fair and simple as that. First, wasteful overseas military spending.



Yes, well, you think a lot of things.

How are you going to convince the voters supply-side economics will work? They watch too much MSNBC to get the point. Maybe an enthusiastic person like you can entertain them with your fantastic intellectual abilities.



I hope so. I was just offered a job at a conservative think tank in DC, so I am thrilled about that. Maybe I'll actually make a difference.


Work on the drastic cut in military budget and non interventionist foreign policy and I'll be willing to meet you halfway about taxes ok?
Back to Top
manofmystery View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 4335
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:15
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


Something I've heard about "Socialism for the top, Capitalism for the rest"
THAT is truly what the free market is about amirite!?
 
 
What does that even mean?


Time always wins.
Back to Top
JJLehto View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Status: Offline
Points: 34550
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:17
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


Something I've heard about "Socialism for the top, Capitalism for the rest"
THAT is truly what the free market is about amirite!?
 
 
What does that even mean?


It's some lame and over fanciful way of saying the top gets bailed out and subsidized and protected by the government and most everyone else does not.
Isn't that one of the many problems you guys have?

And of course that is not exactly what a  true free market system details....but what do I know?
Back to Top
The T View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:18
^It means that the rich share the wealth, and the rest of the people work for a living. Obviously, it makes absolutely no sense.
Back to Top
King of Loss View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 21 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Status: Offline
Points: 16442
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:20

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^It means that the rich share the wealth, and the rest of the people work for a living. Obviously, it makes absolutely no sense.

And we're getting poorer everyday! But some of that burden has to fall with most of the people who do not even try to live within their means.

Back to Top
JJLehto View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Status: Offline
Points: 34550
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:22
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^It means that the rich share the wealth, and the rest of the people work for a living. Obviously, it makes absolutely no sense.


Not quite how I heard it described but hey, interpretation is part of the fun.


Back to Top
The T View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:26
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^It means that the rich share the wealth, and the rest of the people work for a living. Obviously, it makes absolutely no sense.
Not quite how I heard it described but hey, interpretation is part of the fun.
What's the official description?
Back to Top
thellama73 View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 29 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 8368
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:26
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

 Maybe I'll actually make a difference.

lol, nobody gives a sh*t about think tanks. 


Thanks for being supportive, Henry. You are a true friend.
Back to Top
manofmystery View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 4335
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:26
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


Something I've heard about "Socialism for the top, Capitalism for the rest"
THAT is truly what the free market is about amirite!?
 
 
What does that even mean?


It's some lame and over fanciful way of saying the top gets bailed out and subsidized and protected by the government and most everyone else does not.
Isn't that one of the many problems you guys have?

And of course that is not exactly what a  true free market system details....but what do I know?
 
 
Oh, ok.  For a second there I thought you were endorsing some type of capitalism/socialism hybrid for the "top".  What we have right now is cronyism (can't use the term crony capitalism because I feel that the first word invalidates the second) which is in the facist/socialist vein.


Time always wins.
Back to Top
JJLehto View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Status: Offline
Points: 34550
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:33
None at all Teo, interpretation is all part of the fun isn't it?

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


Something I've heard about "Socialism for the top, Capitalism for the rest"
THAT is truly what the free market is about amirite!?
 
 
What does that even mean?


It's some lame and over fanciful way of saying the top gets bailed out and subsidized and protected by the government and most everyone else does not.
Isn't that one of the many problems you guys have?

And of course that is not exactly what a  true free market system details....but what do I know?
 
 
Oh, ok.  For a second there I thought you were endorsing some type of capitalism/socialism hybrid for the "top".  What we have right now is cronyism (can't use the term crony capitalism because I feel that the first word invalidates the second) which is in the facist/socialist vein.


Whoa whoa not at allAngry
And yeah Cronyism is a much better way of putting it, that or "socialism for the top" whatever you want it blows.
It is fascism really.

Back to Top
JJLehto View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Status: Offline
Points: 34550
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:34
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

 Maybe I'll actually make a difference.

lol, nobody gives a sh*t about think tanks. 


Thanks for being supportive, Henry. You are a true friend.


Well now you are too smart to actually expect support from Henry, but I must say that's pretty cool news. Even if its for a conservative think tank, not even the Cato institute? Aim big llama
Back to Top
thellama73 View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 29 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 8368
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:43
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

 Maybe I'll actually make a difference.

lol, nobody gives a sh*t about think tanks. 


Thanks for being supportive, Henry. You are a true friend.


Well now you are too smart to actually expect support from Henry, but I must say that's pretty cool news. Even if its for a conservative think tank, not even the Cato institute? Aim big llama


I applied at Cato and Heritage, but didn't hear from them. I was actually offered jobs at two different places, so I even had a choice in which one to take. That was pretty cool.
Back to Top
JJLehto View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Status: Offline
Points: 34550
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:49
Multiple job offers is always wonderful.


Well this thread has run its course. Endless political banter/quick death ensue!
Back to Top
King of Loss View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 21 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Status: Offline
Points: 16442
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 00:22

I'm going to refresh this thread by posting video here:





Edited by King of Loss - October 18 2011 at 00:23
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 06:55
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:



I applied at Cato and Heritage, but didn't hear from them. I was actually offered jobs at two different places, so I even had a choice in which one to take. That was pretty cool.
What exactly are one's job responsibilities working for a think tank?  (a serious question)
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

Back to Top
The Doctor View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: June 23 2005
Location: The Tardis
Status: Offline
Points: 8543
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 07:23
^Thinking about stuff, I'd imagine.  Tongue
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
Back to Top
Equality 7-2521 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
Status: Offline
Points: 15784
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 07:33
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:



I applied at Cato and Heritage, but didn't hear from them. I was actually offered jobs at two different places, so I even had a choice in which one to take. That was pretty cool.
What exactly are one's job responsibilities working for a think tank?  (a serious question)


It's not unlike post-doc research.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
Back to Top
Blacksword View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 07:43
Disconnect big corporations from politics. Criminilise the corporate funding of party political campaigns. Separate investment banking from commercial banking, and reinstate Glassteigal, and equivelent legislation worldwide, to make it both illegal and a technical impossibility for investment banks to play 'casino' to the degre that they have. This legislation was bought in at the end of the great depression to prevent it happening again. It was repealed in the 90's.

I challenge any former chancellor, treasury secretary, head of IMF, World Bank, Federal Reserve etc, to convince me that they didn't know that this disaster was inevitable. It's a crisis by design, and the same people who orchestrated it, will be the ones offering up the solution, over the next 6 - 12 months, so watch out!!

Oh, and don't get too excited about 'taxing the rich' Newsflash, if you own a home or run a small business, you ARE the rich, as far as they are concerned. The uber rich architects of this crisis are untouchable, regardless of who's in power in any country. I wouldn't be surprised if they regarded us as a different species altogether.
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Back to Top
Equality 7-2521 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
Status: Offline
Points: 15784
Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 07:47
You can't disconnect corporations from politics. It doesn't work like that. You would need to disconnect people from their desire for money and power for that to happen. Shrink the power of the politicians and the power of those who use them shrinks too. 
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 45678 49>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.219 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.