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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:13
Hey, a reasoned look at both the tea party and occupy wall street:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:14
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

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I think we need to cut spending before we lower taxes. Fair and simple as that. First, wasteful overseas military spending.



Yes, well, you think a lot of things.

How are you going to convince the voters supply-side economics will work? They watch too much MSNBC to get the point. Maybe an enthusiastic person like you can entertain them with your fantastic intellectual abilities.



I hope so. I was just offered a job at a conservative think tank in DC, so I am thrilled about that. Maybe I'll actually make a difference.


Work on the drastic cut in military budget and non interventionist foreign policy and I'll be willing to meet you halfway about taxes ok?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:15
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Something I've heard about "Socialism for the top, Capitalism for the rest"
THAT is truly what the free market is about amirite!?
 
 
What does that even mean?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:17
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


Something I've heard about "Socialism for the top, Capitalism for the rest"
THAT is truly what the free market is about amirite!?
 
 
What does that even mean?


It's some lame and over fanciful way of saying the top gets bailed out and subsidized and protected by the government and most everyone else does not.
Isn't that one of the many problems you guys have?

And of course that is not exactly what a  true free market system details....but what do I know?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:18
^It means that the rich share the wealth, and the rest of the people work for a living. Obviously, it makes absolutely no sense.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:20

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^It means that the rich share the wealth, and the rest of the people work for a living. Obviously, it makes absolutely no sense.

And we're getting poorer everyday! But some of that burden has to fall with most of the people who do not even try to live within their means.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:22
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^It means that the rich share the wealth, and the rest of the people work for a living. Obviously, it makes absolutely no sense.


Not quite how I heard it described but hey, interpretation is part of the fun.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:26
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^It means that the rich share the wealth, and the rest of the people work for a living. Obviously, it makes absolutely no sense.
Not quite how I heard it described but hey, interpretation is part of the fun.
What's the official description?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:26
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

 Maybe I'll actually make a difference.

lol, nobody gives a sh*t about think tanks. 


Thanks for being supportive, Henry. You are a true friend.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:26
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


Something I've heard about "Socialism for the top, Capitalism for the rest"
THAT is truly what the free market is about amirite!?
 
 
What does that even mean?


It's some lame and over fanciful way of saying the top gets bailed out and subsidized and protected by the government and most everyone else does not.
Isn't that one of the many problems you guys have?

And of course that is not exactly what a  true free market system details....but what do I know?
 
 
Oh, ok.  For a second there I thought you were endorsing some type of capitalism/socialism hybrid for the "top".  What we have right now is cronyism (can't use the term crony capitalism because I feel that the first word invalidates the second) which is in the facist/socialist vein.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:33
None at all Teo, interpretation is all part of the fun isn't it?

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


Something I've heard about "Socialism for the top, Capitalism for the rest"
THAT is truly what the free market is about amirite!?
 
 
What does that even mean?


It's some lame and over fanciful way of saying the top gets bailed out and subsidized and protected by the government and most everyone else does not.
Isn't that one of the many problems you guys have?

And of course that is not exactly what a  true free market system details....but what do I know?
 
 
Oh, ok.  For a second there I thought you were endorsing some type of capitalism/socialism hybrid for the "top".  What we have right now is cronyism (can't use the term crony capitalism because I feel that the first word invalidates the second) which is in the facist/socialist vein.


Whoa whoa not at allAngry
And yeah Cronyism is a much better way of putting it, that or "socialism for the top" whatever you want it blows.
It is fascism really.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:34
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

 Maybe I'll actually make a difference.

lol, nobody gives a sh*t about think tanks. 


Thanks for being supportive, Henry. You are a true friend.


Well now you are too smart to actually expect support from Henry, but I must say that's pretty cool news. Even if its for a conservative think tank, not even the Cato institute? Aim big llama
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:43
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

 Maybe I'll actually make a difference.

lol, nobody gives a sh*t about think tanks. 


Thanks for being supportive, Henry. You are a true friend.


Well now you are too smart to actually expect support from Henry, but I must say that's pretty cool news. Even if its for a conservative think tank, not even the Cato institute? Aim big llama


I applied at Cato and Heritage, but didn't hear from them. I was actually offered jobs at two different places, so I even had a choice in which one to take. That was pretty cool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 23:49
Multiple job offers is always wonderful.


Well this thread has run its course. Endless political banter/quick death ensue!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 00:22

I'm going to refresh this thread by posting video here:





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 06:55
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:



I applied at Cato and Heritage, but didn't hear from them. I was actually offered jobs at two different places, so I even had a choice in which one to take. That was pretty cool.
What exactly are one's job responsibilities working for a think tank?  (a serious question)
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 07:23
^Thinking about stuff, I'd imagine.  Tongue
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 07:33
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:



I applied at Cato and Heritage, but didn't hear from them. I was actually offered jobs at two different places, so I even had a choice in which one to take. That was pretty cool.
What exactly are one's job responsibilities working for a think tank?  (a serious question)


It's not unlike post-doc research.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 07:43
Disconnect big corporations from politics. Criminilise the corporate funding of party political campaigns. Separate investment banking from commercial banking, and reinstate Glassteigal, and equivelent legislation worldwide, to make it both illegal and a technical impossibility for investment banks to play 'casino' to the degre that they have. This legislation was bought in at the end of the great depression to prevent it happening again. It was repealed in the 90's.

I challenge any former chancellor, treasury secretary, head of IMF, World Bank, Federal Reserve etc, to convince me that they didn't know that this disaster was inevitable. It's a crisis by design, and the same people who orchestrated it, will be the ones offering up the solution, over the next 6 - 12 months, so watch out!!

Oh, and don't get too excited about 'taxing the rich' Newsflash, if you own a home or run a small business, you ARE the rich, as far as they are concerned. The uber rich architects of this crisis are untouchable, regardless of who's in power in any country. I wouldn't be surprised if they regarded us as a different species altogether.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2011 at 07:47
You can't disconnect corporations from politics. It doesn't work like that. You would need to disconnect people from their desire for money and power for that to happen. Shrink the power of the politicians and the power of those who use them shrinks too. 
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