Steven Wilson - Grace for Drowning

Andyman1125 wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: Andyman1125 wrote: Lies. Which part?  The part when I say I am lying when I say that I am telling the truth or the part when I tell you that I am lying and you know that I am lying because I am telling you that I am telling you the truth? Er... the first one is really the only logical one.

Wrong!  The correct answer is a question and that question is: what was the middle part?


Edited by Slartibartfast - October 16 2011 at 07:59

I've only heard "Index" uploaded here on PA.

I asked if this was indicative of the album, and was told "No- it's oddball."

Still, I'm quite reluctant.  To me "Index" is terrible.

Andyman1125 wrote: Lies.

Which part?  The part when I say I am lying when I say that I am telling the truth or the part when I tell you that I am lying and you know that I am lying because I am telling you that I am telling you the truth?


Edited by Slartibartfast - October 16 2011 at 07:59

The themes click with me as well as the music, it's the best album that ever was, no, wait a second, it's a total piece of crap.

Edited by Slartibartfast - October 16 2011 at 07:59

I'm soaking in it now, but that's just me. 

Edited by Slartibartfast - October 16 2011 at 07:59

I gotta say, GFD is not very good when you're in a bad mood

I like "Insurgentes" more than GfD. New album is too chaotic for me, these melodic parts of "Deform..", "Like Dust.." just doesn't work for me. Anyway, I like heavier parts of album, though I'm not a big fan of fast and heavy riffs.

One can never accuse SW of sitting on his laurels - every album he does introduces something new to his oeuvre. I like most of what he did with PT - obvious exceptions being The Sky... and Voyage 34 - and I love Insurgentes. GfD is - thankfully - not much like any of those. Sectarian does kinda remind me of Tinto Brass, not bad but the least distinguished actual song. Grace For Drowning, Raider Prelude and Belle De Jour are nice little mood pieces - kinda like the bookends of Heritage - but again, not greatly distinguished. The rest though, is variously enjoyable. Deform..., No Part... and Track One are all beautiful, the latter two darkly so. Remainder... is brilliant, almost kicks ass in an obscure knda way. Raider II 'almost tilts as an unmanageable indulgence' to borrow a Morrisssey phrase but there's enough going on there to hold attention. Definitely very Crimsonesque, and slightly reminiscient of Judy Dyble's Harpsong, mostly due to Theo Travis' woodwind contributions.

Oh, and check out this link to antonio seijas blog. Seems SW may have been, ahem, inspired by his artwork for Harvest

http://antonioseijas.blogspot.com/2011/09/harvest-steve-wilson.html

Padraic wrote: Mr ProgFreak wrote: Polo wrote: Sounds really good. I'd say it's better than Insurgentes, The Incident and Deadwing's best songs combined. I like it, but it's not as good as any of those you listed. In PA terms, it's still a solid 4 star album, but IMO it lacks coherence and focus - again, compared to those you listed (especially The Incident). No, Marco's right.

All of the mentioned albums are coherent and focused IMO.

You're right, Mike, you're absolutely 100% correct.

We've derailed the thread enough.  If you have anything further to add, send me a PM.


Edited by Padraic - October 05 2011 at 14:47