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Andy Webb

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 14:19

Oh boy, this thread is from my newbie days if memory serves me correctly. LOL

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 16:44

Yes, it seems like. And there are even older threads on ProgArchives.

And about wikipedia, I love it. I use it every day, I read about ancient battles, different countries around the world, or physics related matters. Yet it can be sometimes so stupid.

There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 16:52

Wikipedia is my go-to source for flash information. It's a great branching-off point. All those folks that say it's not trustworthy obviously haven't used it more than for ten seconds. IF it's a credible page, there'll be external links to information that can be verified. Some pages have several hundred to nearly a thousand external links or quotations - all marked fastidiously in the references section.

It's a very handy tool for basic information on albums and dates.

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 16:55

OK, I concur, but the point being ? I am not arguing against wikipedia information. I am arguing against wikipedia deleting harmless article about our website (which is not just a forum, but most importantly - database, which differs it from other forums that has page on wikipedia).

TALK PAGE ABOUT LAST DELETION - 2006

There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Alitare

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 16:57

Yeah, it seems only logical that the page be included based on the inclusion of other, less complete pages. But isn't that kinda like saying each band must be voted to be included based on its own merits as opposed to arguing that Band X is more progressive than Band Y, therefore a must for inclusion? :P

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 17:10

Why would a web site have to be included in Wikipedia, if any search engine can get you to the source right away?

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 17:17

I'm afraid this thread on Wikipedia doesn't cite any of its references, I say it should be deleted from the PA now.

What?

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 17:19

That's easy. Because it's good to be there, especially when less important or less visited forums are there. I am only repeating myself here, I said everything important already.

And remember, people from PA tried to establish page there two times. It was all for nothing ?

+ If X then Y, this example is quite complicated. And "progressiveness" is even more difficult.

When I vote for Crossover bands, if to be included or rejected, ONE OF reasons if yes or if no is that I compare them to other Crossover artists, do equations in my head, feel the band if it sounds progressive.

So I have an idea what Crossover is and how it sounds. I compare new band/artist to this sum of knowledge and experience and then I decide. So I am actually comparing X (new band) to Y (Crossover).

There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

-Andyman1125 on Lulu

Even my

Andy Webb

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 17:22

Angelo wrote:

Why would a web site have to be included in Wikipedia, if any search engine can get you to the source right away?

More for, well, encyclopedic purposes rather than advertising purposes. If someone might want to find out some information that may have taken some digging around the forum to find, Wikipedia might be useful.

Not that we would document the various "incidents" of the forum (flame wars, bannings, etc) but just the basics. LOL

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 17:30

Alitare wrote:

Wikipedia is my go-to source for flash information. It's a great branching-off point. All those folks that say it's not trustworthy obviously haven't used it more than for ten seconds. IF it's a credible page, there'll be external links to information that can be verified. Some pages have several hundred to nearly a thousand external links or quotations - all marked fastidiously in the references section.

It's a very handy tool for basic information on albums and dates.

Wish I could get some of the older teachers (and parents) I work with to understand this.

https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays

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Posted: October 12 2011 at 18:04

Epignosis wrote:

It's a very handy tool for basic information on albums and dates.

Wish I could get some of the older teachers (and parents) I work with to understand this.

I'm guilty of Wiki-backtracking - using the info from Wikipedia while sourcing the things they source Embarrassed

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Posted: October 22 2011 at 14:02

I have a question for you all. I noticed that Rate Your Music has some similarities with ProgArchives. I don't visit there often, but I know that RYM has its page on wiki. How strong are these similarities ? What works on a basically same basis there ?

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Posted: October 22 2011 at 14:13

Ive used wikipedia in my search for jazz albums and information before since this place is no help Wink

JMA works, but it is still too new.

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Andy Webb

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Posted: October 22 2011 at 14:37

Marty McFly wrote:

I have a question for you all. I noticed that Rate Your Music has some similarities with ProgArchives. I don't visit there often, but I know that RYM has its page on wiki. How strong are these similarities ? What works on a basically same basis there ?

I think RYM has a page because it has a much larger userbase and is a much older page; i.e. it was written before much of Wiki's regulations were put in place.

Sometime soon I think I'll rewrite that article though...