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DamoXt7942 
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 Posted: October 06 2011 at 02:20 |
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Japanese Kraut ... or Psych tinged with Kraut ... lemme recommend these projects as follows:
Acid Mothers Temple Karuna Khyal Brast Burn Seikazoku Omoide Hatoba Please check'em.  |
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Sherpa Relaxing
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Posted: October 06 2011 at 05:14 |
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May I also highly recommend in a similar vein: 'Satori' by Flower Travellin' Band and especially 'Parallel World' by Far East Family Band, produced and played on by Klaus Schulze. Both fantastic albums.
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moshkito
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Honestly, I do not consider "Acid Mothers Temple" anywhere near "krautrock" at all ... for the most part is is too much about thrashing and less music for my ears. I sometimes think that an evening with these guys opening for Dream Theater would be a good combination ... if you don't get your fix for guitar thrashing, you simply do not appreciate the waste of outstanding musicianship in the name of something or other.
I don't dislike what they do ... I just don't find it as interesting as the original, and in general, these guys are in too much of a hurry to get on to the thrashing, lest the coke or the high expire and you can't enjoy the music a whole lot.
In my book, I still say, that the only thing that AMT really needs is to take a few really good acid trips ... might learn something about the sensuality in music that helps define some hardness, instead of loudness.
That is, however, my own observation, and it is not meant to sound sex'ist or not appreciative of AMT ... I just think that the music does not have a little direction and is not defined by "experience", it is defined by notes and clusters of notes and more clusters of notes.
The others I have not head to be able to comment. This is not a put down of AMT, because I have some of their stuff and I don't dislike it, but rarely was some of the "krautrock" just mere thrashing. It might have been, but I don't think so.
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: October 06 2011 at 18:08 |
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: October 06 2011 at 19:07 |
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I tend to agree with you Moshkito. I've just never enjoyed them for some reason.Now if you want a Japanese band that plays in the Krautrock style that i love it would be FAR OUT.Amazing band !
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 06 2011 at 22:02 |
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To me this is pure Krautrock in the vein of the first Gila record:
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 08:12 |
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If I was asked to play a Krautrock track that both serves as a good example of the genre, but also just rocks/floats like hell - I´d choose this one. It´s pretty easy to get into compared to a lot of other Kraut as well.
I am deeply addicted to this track:
Apart from Brainticket I´m also listening a lot to Faust IV. Everything from the classic opener Krautrock - to The sad skinhead is just wonderful! I think it´s their best - at least right now. Could be different next week, but that sort of comes with the territory I guess
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The Wrinkler
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 01:42 |
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Check out their 71minutes album!!
I was looking around youtube and found this. I haven't seen the whole thing yet, but it does have some cool kraut klips!  Did not realize this was episode 6, so there must be more!. Edited by The Wrinkler - October 11 2011 at 01:43 |
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Bosh66
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 02:21 |
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Anyone had a chance to listen to the Finnish kraut band Siinai yet? Picked up a copy of Olympic Games off the back of an article in Classic Rock Presents Prog, but as my iPod doesn't play CDs, I've not had a chance to listen to it myself. Any good? How kraut is it (if at all!)?
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 05:14 |
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No sorry - I´ve never even heard of a band from Finland playing Krautrock. Sounds pretty interesting though. Heard Kraut from Japan, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, USA, Italy, France, Russia, Austria and Slovenia (probably more). Never Finland. |
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 06:04 |
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This is awesome, thanks! And yeah episode 6  Sounds like an epic documentary! I´ll have a proper viewing later on, but it looks really cool. I trust you´ve seen the Kraut documentary that´s been posted here before with Schulze, Froese and other Gurus? The history behind this scene is perhaps one of the most unique of all the modern rock forms. I´ve mentioned it before in a review, but to think that most of these musicians were facing old teachers from the Nazi regime - thereby also the old ideas with everything concerning politics in music being banned by Goebbels during the 2. WW - is mad and slightly disturbing, - and it must have been so frustrating. Fueled by the fire and hope of the 60s I guess the scene was bound to explode. Krautrock was among many things a rebellion against the past using music to strive for something unfathomable. It was a rebellion against the German schlager and putting muzak on a pedestal. It was about the trip outside the boundaries of old and antiquated mindsets - using everything from Ragas and fusion to American delta blues with a healthy dose of improvisation running things. This is why music has to be seen within the proper time frame, because sometimes this shows us just how much it meant and still means, and how important it is to remember the music for what it is. A way of describing the empty spaces between us. Like an unspoken language so to speak.
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 07:39 |
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No sorry - I´ve never even heard of a band from Finland playing Krautrock. Sounds pretty interesting though. Heard Kraut from Japan, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, USA, Italy, France, Russia, Austria and Slovenia (probably more). Never Finland.
Me neither! This might help if you're curious. I've no sound on my PC in this office I'm in unfortunately, so can't vouch for the quality;
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 23:43 |
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Guld,
I totally know what you mean by that we have to look in the frame. Sometimes I wonder what it was like to be a young German hippy during the early 70's . Just started listening to the Cosmic Jokers, and I'm liking them. I'm really appreciating Ash Ra Tempel (Gottsching and Schulze), and want to know more about their solo careers. So to hear work with Gottsching and Schulze on the same album, you know something magical is going to happen. Also, can I get some recommendations of some desert kraut sound, (Agitation Free-like).Thanks. |
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Posted: October 12 2011 at 03:43 |
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Posted: October 12 2011 at 03:47 |
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And at the same time I've recommended Mahogany Brain (founded by a French poet Michel Bulteau) in Krautrock Team Thread.
This videoclip is not a good sample for him ... a free, freaky tiny one with cheesy voices. |
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Posted: October 12 2011 at 03:53 |
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As you'd guess from my posting on the other thread I did get to listen to Siinai and it's pretty krauty (which I'm sure isn't a word). Thanks for picking this up.
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I know what you mean about Agitation Free and that desert sound. I take it, you´re mostly referring to the debut? Even though, these albums all bear some resemblances to what AF were doing at the time ie the Eastern tinged instrumentation and that special "lost in the desert" feel to it: Mythos - S/T from 72 (very nice album that dabbles in Eastern music, but with close ties to the space rock of Ash Ra Tempel and Cosmic Jokers - should be right up your alley  ) - I guess their second album Dreamlab is just as good, but it´s more of a laid back ethereal chillout thing (Remember this is Kraut, so it naturally evolves into some pretty out there stuff at some points...)Between - And the Waters opened (Most of their albums feature Middle Eastern instrumentation, but done in a very original way) Brainticket - Celestial Ocean (Just check out the vid I posted) Deuter - D (This one will take some time to get into, if you´re anything like me Very nice album though...)Dzyan - Time Machine Embryo - Embryo´s Rache (Featured here under fusion, but don´t let that fool you. Just like Exmagma, Out of Focus and Kraan they´re all part of the Kosmische sound from back then.) There are probably more, but for now this is all I can think of. BTW if you´re getting into both Ash Ra Tempel and Cosmic Jokers, then you should definitely check out Walter Wegmüller´s Tarot. An epic double album featuring Manuel Göttsching, Klaus Schulze, Harald Grosskopf, Walter Westrupp, Hartmut Enke and Jerry Berkers. All well-known Krautrockers from the scene.
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Posted: October 12 2011 at 13:59 |
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Oh almost forgot, I listened to the Finnish krautrock and I´m impressed - thanks for sharing Bosh66
And Damo I don´t know what to say to you You are currently spearheading this thread in terms of the most out there clips - that´s for damn sure Now you just need to find something even wilder, and something tells me that Japan is the go to country, if one wants psychedelic music with a twist...Since Grobschnitt might be heading over to our end of the pond(Or they might remain in symphonic with a small disclaimer), I thought I´d recommend their finest hour, and possibly also their most "Kraut" in sound: Solar Music Live. Anyone who´s into psychedelic music - should enjoy this record immensely - I personally love it to death  |
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Posted: October 12 2011 at 21:03 |
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Great album Bamsen and my favourite from this Swiss band. I listened to Cottonwood Hill and Psychonaut from them today and both are more "out there" especially the first one than "Celestial Ocean" but this one just hits the spot for me.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: October 12 2011 at 21:09 |
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Hey if you want to know what it was like being a young hippy in Germany in the early seventies just ask Uwe(Rivertree) he was there running around with no clothes on at many of these festivals
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