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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2011 at 14:10
The Map is on the youtubez for anyone who is interesting in hearing it. Personally I would have replaced No Part of Me with Fluid Tap and coincidentally they happen to be the exact same length. 

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"raider acceleration" is a somewhat jazzy freakout, not really my thing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2011 at 20:45
I just bought it today, the 'regular' version.
 
I like it alot. Not nearly as rockin' as Porcupine Tree, but still a very good album. Beats Insurgentes by miles (or kilometers, depending on where you live Tongue )
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2011 at 10:34
I've made it through about half a dozen complete listens and there is a lot to love on this album.  Moments of sheer transcendence (Deform to Form a Star, for one) and a couple of sags (Postcard, for one).  Insurgentes was my introduction to Wilson so it's gonna be hard to beat that for sheer impact, but GfD just might be more accomplished.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2011 at 10:19
As someone who has never really loved Porcupine Tree, I enjoyed this album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2011 at 09:19
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Not having been impressed by anything I've heard with mr. Wilson at the steering wheel, I must say I really liked this album. 
Mr. Wilson is almost always at the steering wheel.  Name your worst.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2011 at 09:02
Not having been impressed by anything I've heard with mr. Wilson at the steering wheel, I must say I really liked this album. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2011 at 08:27
Originally posted by The Monodrone The Monodrone wrote:

Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

For anyone with the deluxe edition, how's the third disc entitled "The Map"? I tried asking someone earlier, but apparently they're far too cool to answer... ; P 

For some reason Steve left off some of the best tracks from the Insurgentes sessions. The 78 & Puncture Wound especially were much better than all the tracks on the actual album besides the self titled one, imo at least.  

Puncture Wound should have definitely made it on the actual album; just a great track.

I too am curious about this third disc...

the 78 is fantstic, but i was too slow to get the book version of insurgentes. however i got the super cool red 7" harmony korine single, with the 78 as b-side. the black vinyl version is still for sale in burning shed i think.

i agree the insurgentes bonus disc is fantstic, and you can download it in WAV, for free, on SW's soundcloud page:

about "the map"... i think it's a nice bonus. the tree first tracks are great i think, one is "home in negative" that can also be found on SW's soundcloud. but i think SW did the right thing not to include them on the album.

"raider acceleration" is a somewhat jazzy freakout, not really my thing but still quite cool. "black dog throwbacks" is an ambient piece, very good. then there's the demo version of "raider II" which is nice and interesting to compare with the album version.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2011 at 18:56
Borrowed my brother's copy of this album, and it sounded great.  Probably more impressed by this compared to my first listen to Insurgentes.  Who knows what that will mean in the long run.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2011 at 17:23
I got my boring standard edition today. Tongue
I've listened to both CDs.... sounding really great on my first listen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2011 at 16:46
This arrived:

I thought I had ordered the vinyl release instead when I saw the box it came in.  Well, one listen to the CDs and no blu ray view yet.  It's a really nice box set.  And of course the music is good.  Lots of interesting guests.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2011 at 14:38
Right now, I'm not really enjoying the new album too much. But, it's getting better with each listen and certain parts are starting to stand out more. I'll probably have a clear opinion by the end of the week.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2011 at 13:23
Three listens so far for me, all the way through each time and I'm loving it more the more I listen to it. I've been playing a lot of Fallout lately, so I just let this play on through while I'm at it. It's definitely the progiest work he's done in a while.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2011 at 13:09
Holy Cow!  The deluxe version came in the mail today.  That thing will never fit into my CD case. LOL

I think I'll listen to it first on a i-pod just to tick Steven off. Tongue

Cool, blu ray authoring by Ray Shulman.  Haven't made it to that yet.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2011 at 21:43
I must say that I had been critical of Mr. Wilson in the past few years, the last PT record, and the 3rd Blackkfield.... both almost forgettable in reference to their other works.  I think the record is brilliant.  I was not expecting to like it, but it is nearly perfect in too many ways.  It is the album I think SW has been wanting to make all along, it just took this journey to get to it.  Bravo effort.  5 stars.

My one lament is that he gave the extra tracks to folks that invested in the Blu Ray edition of it.  As it was, I purchased the vinyl, as I have on all of Mr. Wilson's projects.  With Insurgentes, Wilson awarded the vinyl purchasers with extra tracks, which I applaud.  After all, it is all about vinyl and ANTI Ipod, right?  Well, you can get the bonus tracks to the new record another way without getting Blu Ray edition, that is, via iTunes.  Really?  You want me to download some inferior quality 320kbp file to listen to on my tube amps?  Oh really? 

That is my only gripe, and I would wager SW would agree.  It is pathetic but true, and surely driven by markets... oh well.

Great record none the less.  Bravo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2011 at 20:29
I'm just ehhh.... about the first listen. There are a couple songs I could see on a playlist for me....but most of it for me is too melancholy sounding. Maybe I am getting tired of that from Wilson.........dunno.
 
I like the Blackfield material better.........and now I am wondering if he will take Porcupine Tree down this extreme path...if they ever release another album.
 
I'll keep listening......maybe it will grow on me....anyone have any Prozac?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2011 at 19:31
Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

For anyone with the deluxe edition, how's the third disc entitled "The Map"? I tried asking someone earlier, but apparently they're far too cool to answer... ; P 

For some reason Steve left off some of the best tracks from the Insurgentes sessions. The 78 & Puncture Wound especially were much better than all the tracks on the actual album besides the self titled one, imo at least.  

Puncture Wound should have definitely made it on the actual album; just a great track.

I too am curious about this third disc...
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2011 at 19:21
For anyone with the deluxe edition, how's the third disc entitled "The Map"? I tried asking someone earlier, but apparently they're far too cool to answer... ; P 

For some reason Steve left off some of the best tracks from the Insurgentes sessions. The 78 & Puncture Wound especially were much better than all the songs on the actual album besides the titled track, imo at least.  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2011 at 18:55
After the first listen I was not sure what to think of Grace for Drowning. I absolutely adored a few tracks, but many of the tracks were far more standard SW than I was expecting. However, after the second listen, I can safely that this album is really awesome. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2011 at 18:51
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


Back on topic, I smell an album of the year here Smile


I'm pretty confident this will be PA Album of the Year, even if it's not my personal #1.
EVERYTHING Wilson reloeases is a candidate for Album of the Year even if they don't have material for it, that's a fact. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2011 at 18:48
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Definitely Spring 2012 at the earliest.
Based on Caravan and BU2B, CA is unlikely to even be the best album released in Spring never mind that or any year.

Opeth, PT/SW, Anathema North Atlantic Oscillation and even DT are embracing Prog. Rush are running away from it, or Geddy Lee is. Peart and Lifeson seem to have similar tastes (Tool PT for sure) whereas Lee's into bands like Arcade Fire and Fleet Foxes. Nothing wrong with that of course but it doesn't bode well...

I'd like to see this Wacko

Though i understand the idea that Lee is going away from Prog. He doesn't seem to enjoy talking about that "golden era" in interviews, and always calls themselves immature and such at that age.


I'm very curious to how Clockwork Angels will turn out. It's going to be a conceptual piece, Peart says he wants this album to be his pinnacle of drumming and lyrics. While Lifeson and Lee continue to be consistent on their instruments.
Pertaining to the singles - Caravan is a good song, BU2B doesn't stand a chance - good thing it's a B-Side.
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