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Dean
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Posted: September 28 2011 at 10:07 | ||
I'm still surprised to see you sing the praises of the iQube, I would have thought Class-D amps, by their very digital nature, would be an anathema to you.
There is a quite a lot of "electronics" inside an iQube:
..more than you would expect from something whose function is so simple (obviously some of that is for the battery charging circuit, but not much), and some of it is to suppress the initial switch-on transients (a lot more sophisticated than standard speaker protection circuits). Hmm. Nicely made and well engineered. Edited by Dean - September 29 2011 at 02:33 |
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Catcher10
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Posted: September 28 2011 at 15:18 | ||
oliverstoned.......what is the one under the Zune? I have a ZuneHD 32GB (Flash) which compared to the first generation Zune 30GB (HDD), they lowered the output on the newer ZuneHD models, so my Monster Turbine Pro Golds sound like transistor radio ear plugs .
If I can find a good value in an amp then I might look into a nice pair of closed cans.
thanks
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: September 28 2011 at 16:43 | ||
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The T
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Posted: September 28 2011 at 17:25 | ||
Fail HP. The sound sometimes is not too good but some recordings deserve to be heard because of the majestic performances (Like Furtwangler's Beethoven 9th in 1954 in Luzern...)
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Catcher10
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Posted: September 28 2011 at 17:52 | ||
10-4.........beaucoup dinero for a HP amp!! I like the $100 tag or less.......For $550 I add in another $200 and I get the NAD C356 BEE integrated amp I want.....
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 29 2011 at 02:35 | ||
Indeed, my hifi guru was dubious about this class D amp... It's my third portable amp and the best one i tried. It has powerful low and sounds neutral... but some other amps does better in the mid highs so that's why i'm very interested in the Mustang P51 which, i'm almost sure, is more musical and analog sounding. This said, the Iqube is still sonically one of the best portable amps on the market (and an european one, in an american crowded market). But portable battery-powered amp is probably the only valid audiophile application for the class D amplification technology. |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 29 2011 at 02:52 | ||
The RSA amps indeed sound very good (i use to own one)...there are at the top of the world pyramid... Now for a budget one, there's this but it's not that small and i must recall that the best of these portable amps cannot drive properly a big can such as Senn 6XX. There's also the Triad Audio Lisa III which smokes all the others battery powered but it's not portable, being too big. It's something to put on a table in the garden Edited by oliverstoned - September 29 2011 at 03:13 |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 29 2011 at 03:16 | ||
i just learned that a new one entered the game...
Meier Audio Corda Stepdance Edited by oliverstoned - September 30 2011 at 12:21 |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: September 29 2011 at 03:31 | ||
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oliverstoned
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 26 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6308 |
Posted: September 29 2011 at 03:43 | ||
Here are the nice looking ones
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20240 |
Posted: September 29 2011 at 03:48 | ||
I'm sure there is a difference, but when you're travelling, it will go unnoticed or will be interefered with the surrounding traffic and crowd noises...
I'll probably one day invest in one of these lossless system (because carrying around the discs has become indeed inconveniant), but I won't search for a mega bass amp (well maybe the cheapest one you mentioned, if really necessary).... a good pair of headphones should do..
But I'm probably years away from getting to that stage.
yuuuuck!!!
I preffered the damaged fruit fallen from the ugly tree that Dean was mentionning. Edited by Sean Trane - September 29 2011 at 03:54 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: September 29 2011 at 03:50 | ||
Battery-powered is certainly a niche market for Class-D because all the battery wattage is going into the speaker and not wasted heating up the electronics, but as technology progresses I think we'll see more of these designs in top-end AC-powered amps that will be indistinguishable from a good Class A, AB or B amp. Though the stigma attached to them by "old-school" audiophilist (like your "guru") will probably affect how people "hear" them so I guess you have the right conclusion for the wrong reason.
Hmm, lots of electronic again, some of that is a switched-mode power supply to generate ±9V from a single 9V battery,
Still, very neat electronics for a low-volume manufacturer.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 29 2011 at 04:13 | ||
It's a matter of taste, indeed i always choose black version myself, but why not a green or a blue one? not so ugly. |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 29 2011 at 04:21 | ||
Coming back to that point, i forgot to precise that i did the installation with the help of my father who is an electronician engineer and who happens to have a certification related to eletricity works. |
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20240 |
Posted: September 29 2011 at 04:21 | ||
yeak, the black would be least worst, IMHO.... but the white lettering ruins it
As for the green with the white front pannel, no thanks ... all of the other colours (incl the blue) have a glossy nail varnish finish on them.
No my kind of stuff
tastes and colours, uh???
OK, so the risk are lower (indeed an electronician can still deal with power supplys and stuff), but it's still not a certified installation, so you won't be covered by insurances... You could even be sued for responsability (not that I would evensuggest that it will even happen) Edited by Sean Trane - September 29 2011 at 04:24 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: September 29 2011 at 04:27 | ||
^ I must admit the anodised ones look really garish and the front panel not being flush to the case with the 4 screwheads showing is not pretty by any standards - it's all a bit too IndustroPunk for me.
For looks, ergonomics and styling I like things to be flush, unobtrusive (not flashy) and sleek, the Fiio E11 has some of those features:
And I really like the idea of the protected volume control - the guard stops it getting changed by accident (a good thing in a portable amp) and it also protects the potentiometer from physical damage. Of course for $60 it could sound awful. I own an E5 and that sounds pretty good for my ears so I wouldn't expect the E11 to sound horrible by comparison, though the E5 is no louder than the Arcos 1.8 it's normally connected to - I only use it to extend the playing time of the Arcos battery, not for any sonic properties. Edited by Dean - September 29 2011 at 04:35 |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 29 2011 at 04:50 | ||
Edited by oliverstoned - September 29 2011 at 09:38 |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 29 2011 at 09:46 | ||
It's a matter of loving listening outdoor and/or having part of its collection to bring on holidays. For me this luxury has become almost vital (i never bring it in public transport, i prefer reading but i listen to it a lot, especially on summer outdoor). Below another good one, the Pico amp Edited by oliverstoned - September 29 2011 at 13:23 |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 29 2011 at 15:09 | ||
What's cool is once you've got the amp, you can upgrade any good portable source (big Discman which have a superior output line or big walkman) thanks to a min/mini cable
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 29 2011 at 15:17 | ||
Sorry i forgot to reply you on this point, Sean. No the weight doesn't counter the effects because: 1) It was better the plates on 2) These ceramic cones are designed for much heavier weight, huge speakers "DH Cones can accommodate any heavy audio equipment up to 5000 pounds." http://www.goldensound.com/whydhcones |
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