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TopographicTales 
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 Posted: September 24 2011 at 17:10 |
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I find it crazy the way so many people love some of Wilson's work and then hate some of it so much, I don't get it, I love almost everything he's done with PT and Insurgentes. I guess that's just me though.
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 17:14 |
 TopographicTales wrote:
I find it crazy the way so many people love some of Wilson's work and then hate some of it so much, I don't get it, I love almost everything he's done with PT and Insurgentes. I guess that's just me though. |
It's called "not being a fanboy." 
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TopographicTales
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 17:51 |
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Oh ok. You say it like it's a bad thing to enjoy and appreciate an artists whole catalog.
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Horizons
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 17:54 |
TopographicTales wrote:
Oh ok. You say it like it's a bad thing to enjoy and appreciate an artists whole catalog.
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He just doesn't enjoy all of his music. That's okay.
I'm sure you don't love everyone single Yes album.
Edited by Horizons - September 24 2011 at 17:54
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TopographicTales
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 18:10 |
I wasn't saying it's not ok, I also wasn't taking any shots at anyone. I just felt like his post was trying to make me look stupid or something, 'fanboy' just sounds like an insult when I hear it for some reason. I could have taken it the wrong way though, if so I apologize if I came off as a jerkass. 
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QuestionableScum
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 18:39 |
I have heard wonderful things about Grace for Drowning, and the little I have heard from it has been excellent.
Honestly, I love Insurgentes, but that is to be expected given my love for post-punk, shoegaze and drone. It is not a very proggy album in the traditional sense.
The Incident is good, it is just fairly unremarkable.
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 19:04 |
Listening to it right now actually. I like the piano work in particular and theres a track with very creepy choral voices, The mood is fairly somber and melancholy so far on CD 1. It is heav y at times but breaks for lengthy moody musicianship. No Part of Me, Postcard and Raider Prelude are paticulalry good. I will have to listen again to really appreciate it but so far this is his best solo album I believe. The saxophone or clarinet sounds divine that you hear at 34 minutes then it gets chaotic and the sax squeaks are incredible, or is that lead guitar? Then there is an odd time sig, with organ, and strange woodwind, over acoustic - very inventive. This is a gem. It is a prog album for sure.
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 19:17 |
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This track listening to now Index on CD2 has some strange lyrics about hoarding.... "I keep the rubbish that all the people give away.... i am a collector and ive always been misunderstodd, i love the things that people always overlook, i will collect you and put you in a metal cage and then i can study you every day..." creepy. Raider 2 is a classic - a 20 minute epic with lots of flute, very atmospheric. I love this album - almost finished, one song left
Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - September 24 2011 at 19:26
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 19:25 |
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I liked Deadwing, Fear of a Blank Planet, and maybe two or three songs from The Incident, but Wilson's solo stuff always bothers me for some reason. I can't exactly point out why, but I periodically go through phases where I feel like I need to re-evaluate how I feel for Wilson's music, and I always end up disappointed.
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 20:36 |
The album certainly has not disappointed, it's extremely ambitious in comparison to his other recent projects. Can't wait for second listen.
Edited by The Truth - September 24 2011 at 20:37
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 20:38 |
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 08:35 |
Since we're all chiming in about recent SW works, I enjoyed all the PT up to the Incident, which didn't do anything for me at all, and I haven't checked out Insurgentes (which might be Rob's fault ). I'm definitely grabbing GfD on Tuesday.
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Garden of Dreams
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 09:30 |
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I haven't heard most of Insurgents but I think I'll buy Grace for Drowning after all the great things I have read.
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Just give it all an hour by the concrete lake.
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 11:17 |
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Interesting listen, a bit mellow maybe in the song department (read 'too much ballads') but the instrumental parts sound quite spectacular.
Will grow I'm sure
For those who hate post-punk (and disliked Insurgentes), this may one will certainly have more prog-appeal.
Edited by Bonnek - September 25 2011 at 11:20
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 12:23 |
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I don't get it? I haven't heard Insurgentes in years but shoegaze? Post-punk? I don't recall hearing any of that. What I do recall is Steven Wilson releasing some of his most experimental (and dark) material of the past few years.
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 12:28 |
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I liked Insurgentes, i just didn't like how a lot of the tracks climaxed with a wall of noise.
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 12:35 |
Horizons wrote:
I liked Insurgentes, i just didn't like how a lot of the tracks climaxed with a wall of noise. |
Not a fan of post-rock? 
And about the alleged influences on Insurgentes, I can definitely hear drone but that's about it. The shoegaze and post-punk labels are quite a stretch.
Edited by Jake Kobrin - September 25 2011 at 12:41
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 12:40 |
post-rock songs don't climax with walls of sound (at least the ones from artists I've listened). 
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Bonnek
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 12:52 |
Jake Kobrin wrote:
I don't get it? I haven't heard Insurgentes in years but shoegaze? Post-punk? I don't recall hearing any of that. What I do recall is Steven Wilson releasing some of his most experimental (and dark) material of the past few years. |
Shoegaze not but it has many tributes to bands like The Cure, Cocteau Twins, Depeche Mode. So definitely post-punk (or new wave if that sound better), as he admits in any interview I've read. And even the jazzy and noise parts are very dark.
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Jbird
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 13:26 |
Epignosis wrote:
I blew $18 on Insurgentes. Fool me once and all... |
Not $18 for me, but still I was very disappointed in Insurgentes 
I disliked The Incident when it first came out too. It grew on me after repeated listenings though. I quite like it now, though I don't think it's as good as anything from Stupid Dream thru Fear Of A Blank Planet. (not a big fan of the early psychadelic PT phase)
I'll have to listen to this one on the web before I decide to buy it, I think.
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