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    Posted: November 22 2004 at 12:47
Phil Collins once complained that i the early days of Genesis, the fans were mainly just ernest young men in long coats. mike Rutherford too commented on the fact. So, my question is...is Prog mailny appreciated by males, and why? And, if there are ladies in the forum who discovered Prog, or were they thurned on to it by a male friend. Please note, not a sexist topic, just curious.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 13:08
Don't listen to collins

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 13:44
I think at least one lady in this forum was turned on by a male prog friend...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 13:48

Simple-you cant dance to Prog (at a disco, club etc). Young ladies feel they need to listen to pop music so they will recognise the songs at discos and be able to dance to them.

That's why prog rock fans are all lonely, greasy nerds!LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 13:55

Most women have no taste in music...period!!!

but then again neither do most gay people!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 14:00
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:


That's why prog rock fans are all lonely, greasy nerds!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 14:08
come to think of it, there are hardly any females in prog bands either. curved air might have had one. not sure. well they always have females featuring on albums. dream theater have theresea and co on "scenes", pink floyd have clare torry and prolly more. and so on. but as official members there is a dystinct lack of females.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 14:10
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Simple-you cant dance to Prog



not true. me and pete made up an amazing crazy dance which we resite whenever we are drunk and listening to "five percent for nothing" by yes!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 14:27
Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Simple-you cant dance to Prog .......................



not true. me and pete made up an amazing crazy dance which we resite whenever we are drunk and listening to "five percent for nothing" by yes!

I put in the rider: "at a disco or club etc."- Unless you want to get beaten to a bloody pulp!LOL




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 14:42
I discovered prog all by my lonesome, when I was about 13, in the form of Yes on the radio. Back when FM radio was good. I've since come to love and appreciate a lot of prog bands, and Yes remains in my top 5.
Why not a lot of women? I think a tremendous amount of it has to do with our Western, "civilized" society, which assumes women want to be concerned with appearance, and, ultimately, pleasing others. So we are continually fed with the "glamor" magazines and the weight-loss plans, and TV shows like "The Swan",  "Bachelorette", "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire" (I don't know if these are exactly the right names, as I haven't watched a single episode of any of them), etc., etc. The attempt is to make us feel inadequate and the need to pit ourselves against each other for the "prize" of the "handsome" and wealthy male. Is this different from the caveman days?? Our culture sees to it that women are not given much encouragement in breaking away from what has been expected of them for thousands of years. We are still expected to cook, clean, take care of the children, look good,  and listen to "music" with little more than a beat and some ridiculous, shallow lyrics. And who says you can't dance to prog? I do it all the time.
Men, on the other hand, are for the most part encouraged from the start to be independent, have their own minds, blaze their own trails, be experimental, go deeper (no jokes, please  ), be less concerned with their appearance so that they can turn their attention elsewhere (girls, can you imagine that?? ) - and I think appreciating prog music requires those characteristics. I think women are made to believe that those characteristics are undesireable, and isn't life all about being desireable??

The last six words of the above question would be sarcasm, by the way.

It's all too bad, really. Luckily, I have managed to steer away from the norm in this regard. Not only do I listen to prog, but my house is a mess and I only know one way to cook chicken.

And I look good without makeup, as all human beings do.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 14:46
So no mirrors in your house then?Wink



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 14:49
If prog is manly, what is Reed doing here then ???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 14:53
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

So no mirrors in your house then?Wink


All over the house, including the bedroom ceiling.
How else would I know how good I look??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 15:20

Sadly, yes. Prog is predominantly a male thing.

Some women do like it, but not enough get involved with making it.

I agree with those who say that women do seem to like music they can dance to, or love songs. Genesis also said there was no significant female turnout at their shows until they had a hit with the dire 'Follow you follow me'

Besides there seems to more male nerds than female nerds.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 16:21

ErmmWomen will put up with prog only until prognant, or (gasp!) married....Ouch

 

 

 

Confusedafter that, it's back to Madonna, Celine, and ABBA! Dead

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 16:28
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

ErmmWomen will put up with prog only until prognant, or (gasp!) married....Ouch

 

 

Confusedafter that, it's back to Madonna, Celine, and ABBA! Dead

 

Wink!

Totally disagree.  You are generalizing.  There are exceptions sir!

It's Cher, Maddona and Celine



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 16:36

Sonja Kristina of Curved Air and Annie Haslam of Renaissance must be considered as members of prog-bands but both of them are singers. Is it so that if a woman is a member of a band, you can be sure she is the singer?

That question applies on most rock-music, sadly.

By the way, MY FIRST POST!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 17:08
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Most women have no taste in music...period!!!

but then again neither do most gay people!!

 

We can be the exception. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 17:13
Originally posted by Roan's Lady Roan's Lady wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

So no mirrors in your house then?Wink


All over the house, including the bedroom ceiling.
How else would I know how good I look??


I broke all the mirrors on my ceiling when I turned over
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2004 at 19:42
Mariah Carey is the only women who likes prog: she was seen in San francisco streets last year wearing an IQ wet T-shirt! someone asked her: "Mariah, what's your best IQ record"? She said: "74!"

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