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Points: 16952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2011 at 23:13
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Hey you Prog fellows, i'm amazed how about Marillion it's always Marillion aka Fish, i love both but what about Marillion aka Hogart? In fact i prefer the further albums, i mean about music
I prefer Hogarth as a singer over Fish any day of the week. On that basis I bought every Marillion album up to and including The Strange Engine. But I just found that I wasn't listening to any of them apart from Seasons End. I havn't heard Marbles though (or anything after The Strange Engine). Should I give it a try?

Marbles is a bonafide five star classic masterpiece. In fact, the greatest album ever recorded. Every home should have a copy. in fact, Cameron should enact legislation to that effect.Big smile

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Pendragon-Pure
Arena-Contagion
Sylvan-Posthumous Silence
Marillion-Script for a Jester's Tears (in my opinion is not a masterpiece, but is responsible for defining the genre)
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Hey you Prog fellows, i'm amazed how about Marillion it's always Marillion aka Fish, i love both but what about Marillion aka Hogart? In fact i prefer the further albums, i mean about music
I prefer Hogarth as a singer over Fish any day of the week. On that basis I bought every Marillion album up to and including The Strange Engine. But I just found that I wasn't listening to any of them apart from Seasons End. I havn't heard Marbles though (or anything after The Strange Engine). Should I give it a try?

Marbles is a bonafide five star classic masterpiece. In fact, the greatest album ever recorded. Every home should have a copy. in fact, Cameron should enact legislation to that effect.Big smile
Just had a listen to the samples on Amazon.Is it a 'seamless' recording? ie do the tracks melt into each other?
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I would say:

Not Of This World - Pendragon
The Masquerade Overture - Pendragon
Contagion - Arena
IQ - Frequency
A Different Man - Knight Area
Posthumous Silence - Sylvan (especially this one)
Misplaced Childhood - Marillion

Pretty typical list, but you can't really go wrong here :) Enjoy!
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Sadly, I have not heard Contagion yet.  I've only got a couple of albums from Arena, but I really need to remedy that one of these days.

Contagion is a very good album Scott - you would enjoy itThumbs Up
I expect that I would.  I've not had much luck with finding their music at non-import prices.  I haven't looked in a while though.  Maybe I'll get lucky.
 
It's a good album if you like hard-edged Neo but do not overexpect IMO. Here it is rated higher than Inmortal? but personally I prefer Inmortal? and even more the Paul Wrightson era mostly The Visitor and Pride, I think these are their best 2 albums.
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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Surprised there aren't more comments saying how neo prog is terrible but giving no real reason why.

Not sure what this genre really is but I've heard an album by that band Pendragon and it didn't seem too bad.


I like these threads because it shows me whose opinions never to take seriously because they can't keep from sh*tting up the forum.

Sad but true.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Hey you Prog fellows, i'm amazed how about Marillion it's always Marillion aka Fish, i love both but what about Marillion aka Hogart? In fact i prefer the further albums, i mean about music
I prefer Hogarth as a singer over Fish any day of the week. On that basis I bought every Marillion album up to and including The Strange Engine. But I just found that I wasn't listening to any of them apart from Seasons End. I havn't heard Marbles though (or anything after The Strange Engine). Should I give it a try?

Marbles is a bonafide five star classic masterpiece. In fact, the greatest album ever recorded. Every home should have a copy. in fact, Cameron should enact legislation to that effect.Big smile
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Sadly, I have not heard Contagion yet.  I've only got a couple of albums from Arena, but I really need to remedy that one of these days.

Contagion is a very good album Scott - you would enjoy itThumbs Up
I expect that I would.  I've not had much luck with finding their music at non-import prices.  I haven't looked in a while though.  Maybe I'll get lucky.

Scott,

I don't know if you've tried this but here's my trick:

I set up a wishlist on Amazon for myself with everything I'd like to get.  Amazon has a bunch of suppliers so stock and price is always changing.  I just check my wish list every time I have money and see where the deals are, I usually wait until the listed price is under $10.  This puts the total cost including shipping at $13.00 which is reasonable in my mind.

I did check, Contagion is still above the ten dollar mark, but as I said keep checking back.  When something that you've been waiting on for a while suddenly becomes reasonably priced, it's a pleasant surprise.

Good luck,

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I'm listening to Marillion's first album!
I like what I'm hearing so far.
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Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Hey you Prog fellows, i'm amazed how about Marillion it's always Marillion aka Fish, i love both but what about Marillion aka Hogart? In fact i prefer the further albums, i mean about music
I prefer Hogarth as a singer over Fish any day of the week. On that basis I bought every Marillion album up to and including The Strange Engine. But I just found that I wasn't listening to any of them apart from Seasons End. I havn't heard Marbles though (or anything after The Strange Engine). Should I give it a try?
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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Surprised there aren't more comments saying how neo prog is terrible but giving no real reason why.

Not sure what this genre really is but I've heard an album by that band Pendragon and it didn't seem too bad.


I like these threads because it shows me whose opinions never to take seriously because they can't keep from sh*tting up the forum.


If you mean me specifically chillax I'm 100% serious, I jut don't know what it is. What makes it anything special? (From prog rock in general). I want to know. Admittedly I never bothered with neo prog because there's already so many genres and bands and I wanted to explore things outside rock in general.

But yeah, no one has told me why it "sucks" At best, apparently neo prog band is a Genesis rip off but that sounds like silly BS to me.


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Twelfth Night - Fact And Fiction

The Puppet Show - The Tale Of Woe
 
I also support the Fish era Marillion (first four albums mentioned  by Girensky), IQ, and Arena suggestions.
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Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Surprised there aren't more comments saying how neo prog is terrible but giving no real reason why.

Not sure what this genre really is but I've heard an album by that band Pendragon and it didn't seem too bad.


I like these threads because it shows me whose opinions never to take seriously because they can't keep from sh*tting up the forum.
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Surprised there aren't more comments saying how neo prog is terrible but giving no real reason why.

Not sure what this genre really is but I've heard an album by that band Pendragon and it didn't seem too bad.

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Thanks again for all of your recommendations! Smile
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

None of them.
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Hey you Prog fellows, i'm amazed how about Marillion it's always Marillion aka Fish, i love both but what about Marillion aka Hogart? In fact i prefer the further albums, i mean about music
FAIS QUE TON REVE SOIT PLUS LONG QUE LA NUIT HAVE YOUR DREAM LASTING LONGER THAN THE NIGHT
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PA's Neo page is a good guide
 
 
As is frequently the case I would recommend to investigate a bit in chronological order, because in this way you feel the way the sub-genre actually developed and you experience it in a similar way as those of us who were following it at the time. As Ivan says the first albums by Marillion defined the genre (don't forget Grendel which was actually their first EP, now more easily found in the B'Sides Themselves CD).
Pendragon, Arena, Twelft Night, IQ and Pallas quickly followed.
 
Some favourites of mine are:
 
Marillion:  Script / Fugazi / Misplaced Childhood and Clutching At Straws
Jadis: More Than Meets The Eye
Arena: Pride / The Visitor
Quidam: selt-titled debut
IQ: Tales From The Lush Attic / The Wake / The Seventh House
Pendragon: The Jewel (is not sooooo good but defines the sub-genre as well) / The World / The Masquerade Overture
Pallas: The Sentinel (not a masterpice either but also defining a sub-set of the genre)
 
 
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I recommend you to start with this two albums:



Script for a Jester's Tear by Marillion: Defined Neo Prog with masterpieces as the title song and Garden Party




Masquerade Overture by Pendragon: Masterpiece, not a weak track, and the CD has some good bonus tracks as The King in the Castle that reminds me of Entangled.

Enjoy

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