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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2011 at 01:40
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Does it mean that nobody should use images of wars or natural catastrophes or African hunger?

In music videos, yes.  
Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:

I think that album/song title is perhaps somewhat understandable (if not wholly forgivable) if one takes into account its cultural and political context.

I don't actually know why they did it, but I always assumed they had some sort of reason, although I never cared enough to try to find out. But I fairly certain I would consider it tasteless even if I did know.

Why not? Is it immoral? I don't think that Captain Beefheart would have had this kind of complaints. However it's evident that we'll remain on our own positions so proceeding with the discussion is useless and also time consuming because of our different time zones. 

About the Area, just give a look to the band's bio on PA. You don't have to listen to them if you don't want. Because of the premature death of Demetrio Stratos they weren't active at the time of the first RIO, but they would have perfectly fit there. Sometimes lyrics are as important as music, and this is their case, They didn't just give a title to the album. They have also filled it with contents. Exactly the countrary of what Anima did. The author wrote some instrumental music, likely basing on his feelings. Check out other works of that band and you'll spot the difference between that track and all the rest that's doom/industrial metal. Then putting the music over the images which have inspired it doesn't seem immoral to me. The same images have been used by Bush to support the invasion of Iraq. Who is immoral?

However feel free to reply. I will not. I don't want to cross the borders of what belongs to music and PA and this is exactly what we are doing. Of course if any victim's relative feels "offended" I'm ready to apologize but honestly I don't see anything bad in that video.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2011 at 02:11
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Does it mean that nobody should use images of wars or natural catastrophes or African hunger?

In music videos, yes.  
 
IMO you're hiding your head in the sand, perhaps because of subconscious feelings connected to that attack. An artist reflects the world in his/her works, and to put together things like music and documentary film is not immoral, at least when the message is implicit, and not used in a way where the artist wants to somehow cash in with other people's suffering.
 
If you make good music and accompany it with documentary film of the starvation in East Africa, it might even make more people aware of the hunger there, and eventually help the starving.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2011 at 03:14

Not related to the thread...I'm listening to your music. It's great ! Clap 
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