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    Posted: September 01 2011 at 09:40
I finally went and bought the recent 5CD+1DVD box set for this and yes, now that they finally have the original 8 track multi-channel masters it does sound incredible. I can't believe those masters have been lost all these decades.

I was 12 when it first came out. I was a record-buying fanatic at the time and for weeks whenever I was hanging out at my favorite record store, a huge store called Giant Music, I kept seeing on the new release display this album with that weird face staring out. No title, no artist's name, just that surreal face. I finally asked one of the clerks what the heck was this album about. He said something about a new group that came out of nowhere and that the album was a real mindblower. Being an aspiring drummer at the time, I asked how were the drums on it and he said amazing.

So, I eventually coughed up the 4 bucks for it and took it home. I was immediatley blown away by Schizoid Man. But being more into the hard driving sounds of Hendrix, Cream, The Who among others, I was pretty bored with the rest of the album. For the next few years, Schizoid was pretty much the only track I would repeatedly listen to.

I can't say that this was the album that hooked me into prog. That really didn't come until later with Yes's Fragile. But over the years I would revisit the rest of the album until eventually it became one of my favorites.

So what do you remember of your first exposure to this landmark album? Was it the one that hooked you into prog? Or was it something else and you backtracked to it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 09:44
Actually I can't remember when I first heard it but I was around 12 when I first heard the live version of "Tarkus" from Welcome Back My Friends..., and it was a long time before I knew why the audience cheered when Lake sang the bit from Epitaph.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 09:55
14 yrs? 15 yrs? I don't remember, but for sure it was dad trying to give me a lesson in prog, KC and Fripp badassery altogether. He even sat with me through the whole, pointing out things, such as the second part of "Moonchild" ("So special! Nobody pulled something like that back then!").

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Alas, I wasn't impressed by it. I found "21st Century Schizoid Man" beyond repugnant. My first KC eargasm was easily the next in line ITWOP (heard a few days later). Overall, it took me 5 more years to finally come to think of it as a flawless masterpiece.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 10:00
Listened to it about a year ago, I was underwhelmed. Schizoid Man is pretty cool though.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 10:13
It blew my mind especially the title track and 'I talk to the wind'. It opened up musical horizons for me that I didn't know existed. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 10:14
I must have been 8 or 9 years old. My dad had been "feeding" me stuff like the Moody Blues, Led Zeppelin, Barclay James Harvest and Jethro Tull. He then showed me Tubular Bells and I was blown away. "I want more of this", I said. He looked at me, then went to the shelf and came back with that frightening face on his hands. He put it on and told me to listen closely. "I can't hear a thing, dad!" "Get your hear closer to that speaker." "Oh, yeah, I can here some noises there, but they're so quie... DA DA DARAN DAN DAN... Ahhh! My ears!" Sudenly the album cover made sense. And my dad was a sadist. Bless him. During days after school I would neglect homework and just listen to the thing over and over again. Side One was probably more played than Side 2, it took me a while to get into Moonchild and In the Court of the Crimson King. Probably not the album that definitly converted me to prog (I dabbled a lot in classic hard rock, blues rock and pop before really pledging allegiance to prog), but definitly one that helped my future embracement of the movement.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 10:20
i actualy bought In wake of the Poseidon before i bought In Court of the Crimson King, so i was was awear of the sonic booom i was waiting for, so i liked it emidietly, it can be why i like In Wake of the Posiedon so much as i dooooooo
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 10:49
I was in my early teens when I heard the title track on FM radio.  Was totally floored.  I did not know who did it and it wasn't until later when I found out.  My first KC album was The Young Person's Guide to KC and that when I first heard Epitaph.  Incredible!  I then got ITCOTKC.  Fantastic cover especially on an album.  I'm not a big fan of 21st century and Moonchild can drag a bit, but the 2 big songs are unbelievable!!   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 11:05
Genesis brought me into prog, not King Crimson. I bought all KC albums in a very short succession end of the 80s/beginning of the 90's, most on vinyl. And, honestly, I don't remember which I bought first. Back then I listened to all albums in a row and decided, that the Wetton era would be my favourite KC era. My favourite track of their debut is the title track. What struck me of this album was the release date. I thought, 1969 and it was already so mature and contained already all the elements that Genesis and Yes much later adopted...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 11:08
Originally posted by tdfloyd tdfloyd wrote:

I was in my early teens when I heard the title track on FM radio.  Was totally floored.  I did not know who did it and it wasn't until later when I found out.  My first KC album was The Young Person's Guide to KC and that when I first heard Epitaph.  Incredible!  I then got ITCOTKC.  Fantastic cover especially on an album.  I'm not a big fan of 21st century and Moonchild can drag a bit, but the 2 big songs are unbelievable!!   

That pretty much mirrors my first KC experience. I was about 14, and I went to a mate's house, and he had the Young Person's Guide. He put Epitaph on, and I was blown away. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 11:15
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Genesis brought me into prog, not King Crimson. I bought all KC albums in a very short succession end of the 80s/beginning of the 90's, most on vinyl. And, honestly, I don't remember which I bought first. Back then I listened to all albums in a row and decided, that the Wetton era would be my favourite KC era. My favourite track of their debut is the title track. What struck me of this album was the release date. I thought, 1969 and it was already so mature and contained already all the elements that Genesis and Yes much later adopted...

Almost the same with me, even though I already had ITCOTKC, I didn't revisit them until I heard that Bruford joined them. Then the Wetton/Bruford era really hooked me. He was always one of my favorite drummers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 11:49
Honestly can't remember, it came at me along with a bunch of other prog at the time.  So much good stuff that it didn't make a particular impression.  Love the album.

How is the surround mix?  Worth the price of admission?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 12:20

Prog interest + Internet = you're bound to come across King Crimson at some point.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 12:29
I think it was about 5 years ago. To be honest, I didn't care much about it then, and I care about it even less now. I actually sold my copy...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 12:36
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Listened to it about a year ago, I was underwhelmed. Schizoid Man is pretty cool though.  

Same, but I can't remember when I first heard it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 12:43
I must have bought the album a full ten years after its initial release, if not more, but I had been familiar with the cover for a long time before that.  Since it came relatively late in my King Crimson collecting, it was just one of many to me, a good album to be sure, but it was not my favorite of theirs and never has been.  INTWOP was my first Crimson purchase (or was that LTIA?), and by the time I bought it I had a good half dozen of their albums from a variety of eras.  Nothing really prepares you for Schizoid Man, though, and that song knocked my block off.  The rest of it though, reminded me so much of INTWOP that its impact was greatly softened.  It is kind of weird that the sequence of my experience is the reverse of the actual release dates, but there you go.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 12:43
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Honestly can't remember, it came at me along with a bunch of other prog at the time.  So much good stuff that it didn't make a particular impression.  Love the album.How is the surround mix?  Worth the price of admission?


I would say yes it's worth it. Some albums should be remixed in 5.1, while some don't. This one is very enveloping, especially the mellotron which gives the rears a good workout.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 12:46
Dunno when I heard it first, so I assume that means it did not impress me much. I had a cassette version many moons ago and ofcourse it wore out, not sure why cause I did not play it much. Tape just gets dry and eventually cracks away and turns to dust.....
I bought a used vinyl copy last year, which is in amazing condition, I was shocked!! As close to mint condition as you can get.....I guess the owner did not play it much either.
 
Side 2 for me is better.....to me sounds just fine since it is from 1969..the album cover gatefold is pretty cool for sure.
 
I would like to know about the remastered sound also......although I doubt I would buy a CD version...albums like this which are held in such high regard should be enjoyed in their original format.
 
Is there a remastered vinyl version coming out also?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 12:49
I first heard 21st Century Schizoid Man listening to Alan Freeman's Saturday afternoon radio show during the 70's. Liked that track instantly but it's a rather patchy album at best (Pivotal to Prog certainly, but there's a lot of fluff on it)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2011 at 13:09
Backtracked in.

I was the stereotypical teen that every old member hates on this site, the one that liked prog metal first and got into "regular" prog through there.
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It was one of my very first forays into prog rock though, being such a big name. I liked it a lot then, now....eh it's decent and an important album but not really much to whoop about. 3.25 stars for me.


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