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Points: 2755 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2011 at 13:19
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ Well I think we all appreciate the song as a whole.........I just think people are expressing their feelings about certain parts, which can be interesting too.

Maybe Yes's 5th most interesting epic.
 
It falls behind
 
Awakening
Close To The Edge
Ritual
The Revealing Science of God
 
Mind Drive and The Remembering would give it a good run for it's money as well.


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Its so chaotic.. i love it!
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I really love that song too. It's all great. I wouldn't like it so much if any part was removed... though the particular "war section" may be chaotic (and I would certainly not be interested in hearing it outside the context of the song), it's still an integral part of the song, and the song just wouldn't do without it (and as is often the case with this chaotic sections, the return to melody is all the better because of them). The "Soon" section is sublime just as it is. However, for me this song is so much better on the Symphonic Live album... just amazing stuff, I never need to listen to the original version having the symphonic one instead.

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One of Anderson's best lyrics, and just behind CttE in prog-epic-land.
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Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

Its so chaotic.. i love it!
the chaos is completely deliberate. Prior to recording the album Anderson played the main riff on a piano to the rest of the band and they thought he was nuts! (so everything normalLOL)
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I love it in fact the entire album that's why Relayer is my fave Yes album. 
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I love every part of it!
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Utterly Fantastic. To me, Sound Chaser is a perfect track

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The only thing that bugs me with this album is the sloppy guitar playing ! 
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Originally posted by knumorvid knumorvid wrote:

The only thing that bugs me with this album is the sloppy guitar playing ! 
 
Or rather "chaotic" guitar......which is liked quite a bit here.
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Relayer is one of my favourite Yes albums and I think The Gates of Delirium is a masterpiece. Especially the war section.

Never thought of it as chaotic.




P.S. "Sloppy guitar playing"??? That makes no sense to me, unless it's irony.

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:




One of my favourite prog tracks after Suppers Ready and Karn Evil 9. Can't agree with others about Soon. This is essential to me. Light and Shade.


I agree, regarding Soon. Lovely track.

Relayer overall is a Yes album that took me ages to get into. Just recently I've been playing it a lot, and it's on track to being one of my top prog albums. I'm learning to love the chaos of G.O.D.

It's very different to the albums that went before. I love the production too!
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Points: 5384 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2012 at 05:38
For those who enjoy Relayer, i suggest  you to listen to the latest cd from Simon Says "Tartigrade" who was influenced by Relayer in some songs.  (brother where you bound)Great Stuff! You can check here that it is clear in the guitar work especially :
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I personally think the epics of Yes from Close to The Edge till Relayer albums are fine - even though some of the live versions are yet much better than the studio recordings.
The only problem for me with the "Soon" coda is the overusage of it due the single release. Edit: For clarification, I otherwise think it is great part of the composition, bringing celestial ending to the chaotic war sequences. Truncating pieces like this is similar from classical music as arias are cut off as hits from complete plays. Well.
Don't miss Wakeman's presence here, Moraz was a fine player also, different from his approach though.
I believe the change was logical if Tales from Topographic Ocean was a wrong direction for him.

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I just finished listening to Side 1 of Relayer


Hurry to the second side, getting ever better there! Big smile



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Love such a hot / aggressive / desert atmosphere except "Soon".
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Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

I think that Moraz seriously kinda beats Wakeman and I sorta wish he stayed because the synth sounds Wakeman made in the late 70s... God the man had no boundaries to cheesiness.


Take a listen to the Yesshows album - recorded during the transitional phase, so you get both Wakeman & Moraz: iknteresting comparison & a great live album.

As to 'Gates...' in my opinion, a faultless track on a great album.

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Points: 877 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2012 at 07:54
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I just finished listening to Side 1 of Relayer, I dunno for maybe the gazillionth timeWink. Anyhow I was wondering if there is any part of this Yes epic that you do not like?
 
Yes, the part where anybody would have the unmittigated audacity to criticize any part whatsoever of this absolute
masterpiece!  
 
I would say though that the mastering or overall recording of the record sounds a bit thin & a bit shrill.  Smile
 
Have you heard the nice stereo Holmdel, New Jersey show with Igor on keys?  That version of Gates is much warmer.
"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I just finished listening to Side 1 of Relayer, I dunno for maybe the gazillionth timeWink. Anyhow I was wondering if there is any part of this Yes epic that you do not like?
 
Yes, the part where anybody would have the unmittigated audacity to criticize any part whatsoever of this absolute
masterpiece!  
 
I would say though that the mastering or overall recording of the record sounds a bit thin & a bit shrill.  Smile
 
Have you heard the nice stereo Holmdel, New Jersey show with Igor on keys?  That version of Gates is much warmer.
Also a great version on Yes Symphonic with Brislin on keys
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Points: 877 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2012 at 14:59
Originally posted by richardh <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Also a great version on Yes Symphonic with Brislin on keys[/QUOTE richardh
Also a great version on Yes Symphonic with Brislin on keys[/QUOTE wrote:

Hi richardh,
Hi richardh, Smile
 
Yes indeed, except Tom's keys aren't mixed very high on that.concert in general.
 
But... all those Dutch young coed musicians in the orchestra, a real nice addition to Gates, for sure.   Big smile
 
Europe is cool.Cool
"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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I do like much better the version on the Symphonic album. Haven't notice much about the keyboards being lower in the mix... but that orchestra, I just don't want to hear that song without orchestra again, it becomes so much more beautiful, and perfectly complements the band, without overwhelming it, nor being used as merely background. Also, the version of Close to the Edge on this CD/DVD is really great. Oh, and another thing I love about that DVD is that, unlike other videos with orchestras acompaning bands, the orchestra really looks like they are enjoying being part of the concert, instead of being seated and serious without showing any emotion.

Edited by Dellinger - February 16 2012 at 19:15
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