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Posted: August 24 2011 at 19:57

The Planet Arium?

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Posted: August 24 2011 at 20:22

Jupiter, because of Holst.

Edited by TheGazzardian - August 24 2011 at 20:33

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Posted: August 24 2011 at 20:51

Something I meant to bring up earlier in the thread, but I forgot to.

I know we're not really talking about Earth in this thread, but I remember how the US was pushing to send man to Mars by 2020 or something like that. Yet, besides the fact that it will be rather difficult to keep a person(s) alive for that long of time; we haven't even fully explored our own planet. We don't even know how much of nature really works in the grand scheme of things, and we're looking to send people to Mars? I even remember someone saying they want to send people to one of Jupiter's moons by 2050 or something.

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Posted: August 25 2011 at 04:27

darkshade wrote:

Something I meant to bring up earlier in the thread, but I forgot to.

I know we're not really talking about Earth in this thread, but I remember how the US was pushing to send man to Mars by 2020 or something like that. Yet, besides the fact that it will be rather difficult to keep a person(s) alive for that long of time; we haven't even fully explored our own planet. We don't even know how much of nature really works in the grand scheme of things, and we're looking to send people to Mars? I even remember someone saying they want to send people to one of Jupiter's moons by 2050 or something.

Mars is a realistic and achievable goal (but not for 2020, though!), but the Jupiter thing is pure fantasy.... and not just because of the distance.

But sending a man to Mars ... to do what??

Bring him back after 10 days??

Let's face it, that planet (Mars) is our only way of expansion into the solar system... But this will mean creating an atmosphere and oceans, so you can imagine the daunting tasks of creating the nuclear fusion reactors (to create the O2, N2, H2 gas molecules), setting it up on the planet and creating enough matter to achieve that.

Once .Mars will have an Aamosphere and oceans, we can hope that the planet might just come to 0.85 (at best) of earth's gravity.... whicjh will probably alter our bodies.

Sooo I wouldn'tb plan a real expansion on Mars before 2200 AD, at best. If we haven't died under our own industrial flatulances before that!!! .....

And there will be no visiting your family back home over a w-e .... Once you'll be there, you'll stay there.

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword

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Posted: August 25 2011 at 06:02

Sean - have you been reading Kim Stanley Robinson by any chance?

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Posted: August 25 2011 at 08:06

Jim Garten wrote:

Sean - have you been reading Kim Stanley Robinson by any chance?

Who's he??

>> I'll search on wiki

Nope, this has been my outview since the early 90's, when I started working in the Nuclear field.

Edit: Oh wow!!!!

Had no idea!!

The Mars trilogy

Main article: Mars trilogy

This trilogy is Robinson's best-known work. It is an extended work of science fiction that deals with the first settlement of the planet Mars by a group of scientists and engineers. Its three volumes are Red Mars, Green Mars, and Blue Mars, the titles of which mark the changes that the planet undergoes over the course of the saga. The tale begins with the first colonists leaving Earth for Mars in 2027 and covers the next 200 years of future history. By the conclusion of the story, Mars is heavily populated and terraformed, with a flourishing and complex political and social dimension.

Many threads of different characters' lives are woven together in the Mars Trilogy. Science, sociology, and politics are all covered in great detail, evolving over the course of the narrative. Robinson's fascination with science and technology is clear, although he balances this with a strong streak of humanity. Robinson's personal interests, including ecological sustainability, sexual dimorphism, and the scientific method, come through strongly.

This is really amazingly close to what I thought should happen.... Not that it's THAT amazing, because that's prtetty well the only way it can happen, realistically!!

I think I'll get on it soon

Edited by Sean Trane - August 25 2011 at 08:13

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword

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Posted: August 25 2011 at 09:18

darkshade wrote:

Something I meant to bring up earlier in the thread, but I forgot to.

I know we're not really talking about Earth in this thread, but I remember how the US was pushing to send man to Mars by 2020 or something like that. Yet, besides the fact that it will be rather difficult to keep a person(s) alive for that long of time; we haven't even fully explored our own planet. We don't even know how much of nature really works in the grand scheme of things, and we're looking to send people to Mars? I even remember someone saying they want to send people to one of Jupiter's moons by 2050 or something.

We don't?

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

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Posted: August 25 2011 at 23:31

I don't care what they say, science be damned!

Pluto will always be a planet to me, and look...now we have all these micro planets and moons and sh*t.
Let's just keep it simple and accept there are 9 planets!

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Posted: August 26 2011 at 08:47

That's what we called holding an opinion just because its comforting and familiar to you.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

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Posted: August 26 2011 at 13:26

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

darkshade wrote:

Something I meant to bring up earlier in the thread, but I forgot to.

I know we're not really talking about Earth in this thread, but I remember how the US was pushing to send man to Mars by 2020 or something like that. Yet, besides the fact that it will be rather difficult to keep a person(s) alive for that long of time; we haven't even fully explored our own planet. We don't even know how much of nature really works in the grand scheme of things, and we're looking to send people to Mars? I even remember someone saying they want to send people to one of Jupiter's moons by 2050 or something.

We don't?

Yup

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Posted: August 26 2011 at 14:24

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

That's what we called holding an opinion just because its comforting and familiar to you.

Are there any opinions that you hold which are uncomfortable and unfamiliar to you?

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Posted: August 26 2011 at 15:25

darkshade wrote:

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

darkshade wrote:

Something I meant to bring up earlier in the thread, but I forgot to.

I know we're not really talking about Earth in this thread, but I remember how the US was pushing to send man to Mars by 2020 or something like that. Yet, besides the fact that it will be rather difficult to keep a person(s) alive for that long of time; we haven't even fully explored our own planet. We don't even know how much of nature really works in the grand scheme of things, and we're looking to send people to Mars? I even remember someone saying they want to send people to one of Jupiter's moons by 2050 or something.

We don't?

Yup

Since we have to already know a pretty great deal of how nature works just to send a man to the moon, I find your claim somewhat dubious unless you're going to elaborate.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

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Posted: August 26 2011 at 15:28

Slartibartfast wrote:

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

That's what we called holding an opinion just because its comforting and familiar to you.

Are there any opinions that you hold which are uncomfortable and unfamiliar to you?

Yes. Like I am of the opinion that some people place no value on lives besides their own. I also am of the opinion that Bell's theorem is probably true and not just a byproduct of an incomplete understanding of quantum phenomena.

Both things are highly uncomfortable and foreign to me.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

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Posted: August 26 2011 at 18:15

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

That's what we called holding an opinion just because its comforting and familiar to you.

Well...yeah

Though really, now there's dwarf planets, minor planets, all these "moons"
I yearn for the simple days again.
Not that it matters since Pluto wasn't really that cool

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Posted: August 26 2011 at 19:54

I heard some rumoursa and speculation in the space section in the newpaper, that the asntronomers have a though that hteir might be a gigantic brown thingy, planet, outside of the outer borders of the solarsystem that are larger then Jupiter though less massive, but they havent really any solid evidence other then wild speculation. but idunno really,

it is also a threory that it might be a brown dwarf but i am not sure.....

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Posted: August 27 2011 at 10:30

JJLehto wrote:

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

That's what we called holding an opinion just because its comforting and familiar to you.

Well...yeah

Though really, now there's dwarf planets, minor planets, all these "moons"
I yearn for the simple days again.
Not that it matters since Pluto wasn't really that cool

Yeah Pluto was lame anyway.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

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Posted: August 27 2011 at 10:32

aginor wrote:

I heard some rumoursa and speculation in the space section in the newpaper, that the asntronomers have a though that hteir might be a gigantic brown thingy, planet, outside of the outer borders of the solarsystem that are larger then Jupiter though less massive, but they havent really any solid evidence other then wild speculation. but idunno really,

it is also a threory that it might be a brown dwarf but i am not sure.....

There's some pretty solid evidence for it. They call it the Nemesis. It's not definitive though.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

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Posted: August 27 2011 at 14:50

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

JJLehto wrote:

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

That's what we called holding an opinion just because its comforting and familiar to you.

Well...yeah

Though really, now there's dwarf planets, minor planets, all these "moons"
I yearn for the simple days again.
Not that it matters since Pluto wasn't really that cool

Yeah Pluto was lame anyway.

Well it wasn't!

Even Uranus was better and that's the blandest of them all.

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Posted: August 27 2011 at 15:28

noone is stil voting for the bravest planet of them all, in the solar system

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Posted: August 27 2011 at 17:54

This one's pretty cool:

http://techie-buzz.com/science/alien-planet-diamond.html?utm_source=recentpost&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=recent_post

Inside the solar system...not sure. Probably one of the gas giants.

Poll Question: Pick one
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Mercury	4	[5.41%]
Venus	6	[8.11%]
Mars	8	[10.81%]
Jupiter	14	[18.92%]
Saturn	16	[21.62%]
Uranus	10	[13.51%]
Neptune	16	[21.62%]
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