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wilmon91 
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 Posted: July 19 2011 at 18:12 |
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3. Fly From Here - Pt II - Sad Night At The Airfield(6:41)
Picking guitar intro. Highly mixed singing, but why auto tune? ? The two chords in the main theme are not interesting enough. Nothing wrong with simplicity, though. But those chords make me sleepy. |
Auto Tune? Are you sure, can't say I've noticed it? |
I'm quite convinced, because some notes he sings are just too straight. When he sings "There's no one sleeping" for example, it sounds funny... Or when he sings "that last intake of air"...Especially "of" is clearly not natural.
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Posted: July 19 2011 at 23:48 |
wilmon91 wrote:
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wilmon91 wrote:
3. Fly From Here - Pt II - Sad Night At The Airfield(6:41)
Picking guitar intro. Highly mixed singing, but why auto tune? ? The two chords in the main theme are not interesting enough. Nothing wrong with simplicity, though. But those chords make me sleepy. |
Auto Tune? Are you sure, can't say I've noticed it? |
I'm quite convinced, because some notes he sings are just too straight. When he sings "There's no one sleeping" for example, it sounds funny... Or when he sings "that last intake of air"...Especially "of" is clearly not natural. |
EXCELLENT point! Also, I wonder if some of the singing isn't being done by Trevor Horn? There's quite a resemblance in style & vocal range.
Nothing would surprise me with this album, I guess some of Ollie Wakeman's parts were kept, although he was given the boot. I need to listen to this one a bit more.
They don't play much of this on the present tour, do they? Does that mean yet another Yes tour is forthcoming? They might be surprised at how few fans will turn out for that. Time to start booking the county fairs.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: July 22 2011 at 18:44 |
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I think they're equally meaningless |
Pretty slick when you compare them to Jon's, but hardly as meaningful or interesting, for the epic. A couple songs on the second half lyrics in the proud simplistic tradition of Open Your Eyes. 
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: July 22 2011 at 18:46 |
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Ususally a album doesn't grow on me with many listenings, and this case is no exception. The more and more i listen to it, the less i enjoy it. But i don't say it's a bad album . I am pretty sure it's not going to have the same impact on me in the future like CTE and Going For The One did. I think it's difficult to compare this one with any ohter cd's, it's more on the quiet side, but the melody are strong and the guitar playing of Howe is still amazing.
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The epic is growing on me (except the intro.) Most of the rest seems forgettable
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Posted: July 22 2011 at 19:19 |
YES. Should FLY FROM HERE. Because the current tour really sucks. It REALLY sucks. I've not been at a show, and can vouch for the fact it's always better in the venue than it is on a Camera vid. But honestly. The new album was TRY HARD Neo Prog. And was no better than Magnification. It was a good album without doubt. But tried Too hard to cater to the 50+ generation who bought Close To The Edge in 1972. Is this really the stage our Symphonic Prog legends find themselves at ASIA are still going strong. Lets put Yes on hiatus and let ASIA do their thing because OMEGA was a good album. Pheonix was a fantastic album. Symphonic Prog itself needs a hiatus. The Neal Morse's and Flower King influences have dominated this scene for too long and turned it into a genre that sounds all the same.
I have loved and still love Real symphonic Progressive music for a long time and would like Real life to come once again into the scene.
Christ what a self indulgent rant that was. I may as well but HI,
at the beginning
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Posted: July 23 2011 at 21:56 |
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I was actually quite surprised on the first listen. I wasn't expecting too much from Fly From Here but I enjoyed it. A couple songs were mediocre, but overall it had a lot of high moments and the low moments were not that low. I also want to mention Life On A Film Set for being the best track off the album. The album, I feel, was played down to much. Fly From Here should not be compared to any of their classics. View it as its on entity. That helped me to view the album properly. Again, this is only after one listen to the album as a whole but I've listened to Life On A Film Set 3 times now.
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Just give it all an hour by the concrete lake.
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Posted: July 23 2011 at 22:02 |
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The thing is YES do not need to prove anything to anyone and the majority of fans will enjoy the experience of seeing them live. What I find odd is how poor Benoit David sounds live, and the fact so few people have mentioned it??? Perhaps it's just me :- )
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Posted: July 23 2011 at 23:16 |
In my opinion "Fly From Here" is the best album Yes released since DRAMA, and this are strong words, because I consider Drama superior to GFTO and of course Tormato.
I love to see the band approaching the end of their careers with new music instead of playing the same set of songs they been playing for 4 decades at least 10 years more...No matter how good they are.
Strong release.
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Posted: July 23 2011 at 23:31 |
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I bought it today. As much as I dislike Anderson's lyrics, his voice is really necessary in Yes and I will probably miss him, but reading many of the comments here I'm more optimistic. I like Drama a lot after all.
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 11:17 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
In my opinion "Fly From Here" is the best album Yes released since DRAMA, and this are strong words, because I consider Drama superior to GFTO and of course Tormato.
I love to see the band approaching the end of their careers with new music instead of playing the same set of songs they been playing for 4 decades at least 10 years more...No matter how good they are.
Strong release.
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This coming from someone who is admittedly not a Yes/Jon Anderson fan. I listened to it once, I liked it. I'm in no hurry to buy a copy.
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 11:51 |
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The thing is YES do not need to prove anything to anyone and the majority of fans will enjoy the experience of seeing them live. What I find odd is how poor Benoit David sounds live, and the fact so few people have mentioned it??? Perhaps it's just me :- ) |
Benoit's vocal shortcomings have been discussed on several threads on PA, if you search around the threads you'll see them.
His studio voice isn't bad, and I think composing the songs into an easier voice range (tenor vs. contra-tenor) brings out David's natural strengths. However, he's clearly struggling onstage.
Part of this is probably because he's an amateur vocalist. Singing in a tribute band is loads of fun, but trib bands usually don't go on cross-country tours, playing night after night! Anderson has been doing that for over 40 years, so he knows how to protect his vocal chords & pace himself.
Even more annoying than his vocal shortcomings have been his stage demeanor! I haven't seen this group live & am not so motivated, but B. David could certainly use some professional training on how to comport himself in front of a large audience that has paid up to $100 or more per ticket.
Twirling around, acting like a town fool etc. onstage is not really within the classic Yes stage paradigm.
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 11:56 |
cstack3 wrote:
Chris S wrote:
The thing is YES do not need to prove anything to anyone and the majority of fans will enjoy the experience of seeing them live. What I find odd is how poor Benoit David sounds live, and the fact so few people have mentioned it??? Perhaps it's just me :- ) |
Benoit's vocal shortcomings have been discussed on several threads on PA, if you search around the threads you'll see them.
His studio voice isn't bad, and I think composing the songs into an easier voice range (tenor vs. contra-tenor) brings out David's natural strengths. However, he's clearly struggling onstage.
Part of this is probably because he's an amateur vocalist. Singing in a tribute band is loads of fun, but trib bands usually don't go on cross-country tours, playing night after night! Anderson has been doing that for over 40 years, so he knows how to protect his vocal chords & pace himself.
Even more annoying than his vocal shortcomings have been his stage demeanor! I haven't seen this group live & am not so motivated, but B. David could certainly use some professional training on how to comport himself in front of a large audience that has paid up to $100 or more per ticket.
Twirling around, acting like a town fool etc. onstage is not really within the classic Yes stage paradigm. |
Who is to blame here for the choice of this inexperienced vocalist? Squire, Yes, the manager... Or maybe they don't care... Can we blame the guy who want be part of this great band.
Edited by rdtprog - July 24 2011 at 12:52
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jean-marie
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 12:47 |
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Prefer GFTO to Drama by far
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 13:31 |
rdtprog wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
Chris S wrote:
The thing is YES do not need to prove anything to anyone and the majority of fans will enjoy the experience of seeing them live. What I find odd is how poor Benoit David sounds live, and the fact so few people have mentioned it??? Perhaps it's just me :- ) |
Benoit's vocal shortcomings have been discussed on several threads on PA, if you search around the threads you'll see them.
His studio voice isn't bad, and I think composing the songs into an easier voice range (tenor vs. contra-tenor) brings out David's natural strengths. However, he's clearly struggling onstage.
Part of this is probably because he's an amateur vocalist. Singing in a tribute band is loads of fun, but trib bands usually don't go on cross-country tours, playing night after night! Anderson has been doing that for over 40 years, so he knows how to protect his vocal chords & pace himself.
Even more annoying than his vocal shortcomings have been his stage demeanor! I haven't seen this group live & am not so motivated, but B. David could certainly use some professional training on how to comport himself in front of a large audience that has paid up to $100 or more per ticket.
Twirling around, acting like a town fool etc. onstage is not really within the classic Yes stage paradigm. |
Who is to blame here for the choice of this inexperienced vocalist? Squire, Yes, the manager... Or maybe they don't care... Can we blame the guy who want be part of this great band.
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Squire, who has admitted such in quite a few interviews.
It's not David's fault - who can blame him for taking part?
It is the cavalier and nasty way that Anderson was "dispensed" with, when ill, and the fact that none of them, Wakeman &White aside, even bothered to contact him during his illness, that leaves a very sour taste in the mouth as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 13:32 |
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Prefer GFTO to Drama by far |
Absolutely. Comparing GFTO to Drama is like comparing Shakespeare to Sid Snot.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 15:23 |
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Prefer GFTO to Drama by far |
As do all normal fans.
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 16:50 |
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Absolutely. Comparing GFTO to Drama is like comparing Shakespeare to Sid Snot. |
No, comparing GFTO to Drama is just taste.
I don't like Jon Anderson at all, the sound of the birotron that Wakeman used in GFTO is horrendous, for me the album is weak.
But it's my opinion, this doesn't make me abnormal or a person with a wrong taste.
Iván
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 18:28 |
rdtprog wrote:
Who is to blame here for the choice of this inexperienced vocalist? Squire, Yes, the manager... Or maybe they don't care... Can we blame the guy who want be part of this great band.
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Great point! Hell, if they asked ME to take over vocal duties for Anderson, I would have done it in a heartbeat (even though I have come to resemble a somewhat less portly Squire, and my vocal range is rather awful, worse than Benoit David's).
Now, taking over for Squire on bass.....hmmmm....that has some potential...
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 22:44 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
lazland wrote:
Absolutely. Comparing GFTO to Drama is like comparing Shakespeare to Sid Snot. |
No, comparing GFTO to Drama is just taste.
I don't like Jon Anderson at all, the sound of the birotron that Wakeman used in GFTO is horrendous, for me the album is weak.
But it's my opinion, this doesn't make me abnormal or a person with a wrong taste. No of course ! 
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Posted: July 24 2011 at 22:55 |
jean-marie wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
lazland wrote:
Absolutely. Comparing GFTO to Drama is like comparing Shakespeare to Sid Snot. |
No, comparing GFTO to Drama is just taste.
I don't like Jon Anderson at all, the sound of the birotron that Wakeman used in GFTO is horrendous, for me the album is weak.
But it's my opinion, this doesn't make me abnormal or a person with a wrong taste. No of course !
Iván
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After the words of Ghost_of_Morphy:
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As do all normal fans. |
I had to mention the normality issue.
Iván
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