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QuestionableScum
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 10:41 |
The divide between the more pop minded prog fan, and the more avant minded prog fan has nothing to do with age. It is just a divide in preference.
Camel, Yes and Genesis were always very pop minded.
Furthermore, I know far more music fans who listen to Kayo Dot, than listen to Transatlantic, Spock's Beard, or Neal Morse.
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rogerthat
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 10:44 |
QuestionableScum wrote:
The divide between the more pop minded prog fan, and the more avant minded prog fan has nothing to do with age. It is just a divide in preference.
Camel, Yes and Genesis were always very pop minded.
Furthermore, I know far more music fans who listen to Kayo Dot, than listen to Transatlantic, Spock's Beard, or Neal Morse.
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That surely reflects your company, really, because Spocks Beard must have more fans than KD, I'd assume. A section of metalheads are into Maudlin of the Well but I am not so sure about KD.
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QuestionableScum
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 10:49 |
rogerthat wrote:
QuestionableScum wrote:
The divide between the more pop minded prog fan, and the more avant minded prog fan has nothing to do with age. It is just a divide in preference.
Camel, Yes and Genesis were always very pop minded.
Furthermore, I know far more music fans who listen to Kayo Dot, than listen to Transatlantic, Spock's Beard, or Neal Morse.
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That surely reflects your company, really, because Spocks Beard must have more fans than KD, I'd assume. A section of metalheads are into Maudlin of the Well but I am not so sure about KD.
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Perhaps to some degree. But my point by saying I know more music fans that like KD, than Spock's Beard, was to suggest that KD appeals to people who are genuinely passionate about music in general (ie music nerds). People I used to work at, at music stores who are generally indie music fans would appreciate Kayo Dot, but would laugh at Spock's Beard or the Flower Kings I imagine. I actually do not personally know anyone who likes Spock's Beard. Transatlantic or Neal Morse. Either way, as a youngun of 23 years, who only likes PT and Anathema of the bands mentioned in the OP, and generally listens to more abstract noncommercial prog I can use myself as a counter to this ludicrous thread.
Edited by QuestionableScum - July 12 2011 at 10:53
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rogerthat
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 10:58 |
QuestionableScum wrote:
I actually do not personally know anyone who likes Spock's Beard. Transatlantic or Neal Morse. |
J Man on this very website considers Neal Morse the greatest songwriter ever last I heard (not that I personally do) and I wouldn't question his passion for music (referring to the earlier para which I haven't quoted here). Rob, he of the Epignosis fame, is also a SB/Morse fan as far as I know. So I am inclined to disagree with you. He he, I don't know what it is that makes some avant gardists distrust melody so much.
QuestionableScum wrote:
Either way, as a youngun of 23 years, who only likes PT and Anathema of the bands mentioned in the OP, and generally listens to more abstract noncommercial prog I can use myself as a counter to this ludicrous thread.
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Fair enough and agreed that the premise is indeed ludicrous.
Edited by rogerthat - July 12 2011 at 10:58
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 11:54 |
Did someone call DT mainstream
I dunno about that, I put it on the sound system and the younguns in the house run for the hills - lol
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 11:54 |
rogerthat wrote:
QuestionableScum wrote:
I actually do not personally know anyone who likes Spock's Beard. Transatlantic or Neal Morse. |
J
Man on this very website considers Neal Morse the greatest songwriter
ever last I heard (not that I personally do) and I wouldn't question his
passion for music (referring to the earlier para which I haven't quoted
here). Rob, he of the Epignosis fame, is also a SB/Morse fan as far as
I know. So I am inclined to disagree with you.
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He said "personally know," I'm going to go out on a limb and say that such a distinction does not include strangers on a website.
Edited by Triceratopsoil - July 12 2011 at 20:07
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avantgrind
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 16:23 |
Polo wrote:
darkshade wrote:
The noise that guy is making... I'm sorry... growls, are horrible
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You can't denigrate anyone's voice if you like Dream Theater. |
haha
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King Crimson776
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 19:45 |
QuestionableScum wrote:
I know more hipsters that like KD, than Spock's Beard... KD appeals to people who are genuinely passionate about pseudo-intellectual metal (ie wannabe-music majors and Guitar Center employees). People I used to work at, at music stores who are generally indie music fans would appreciate Kayo Dot, but would laugh at Spock's Beard or the Flower Kings I imagine (too much melody and sincerity). |
Fixed.
QuestionableScum wrote:
I actually do not personally know anyone who likes Spock's Beard. Transatlantic or Neal Morse.
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Cool story, bro.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 19:47 |
King Crimson776 wrote:
QuestionableScum wrote:
I know more hipsters that like KD, than Spock's Beard... KD appeals to people who are genuinely passionate about pseudo-intellectual metal (ie wannabe-music majors and Guitar Center employees). People I used to work at, at music stores who are generally indie music fans would appreciate Kayo Dot, but would laugh at Spock's Beard or the Flower Kings I imagine (too much melody and sincerity). |
Fixed.
QuestionableScum wrote:
I actually do not personally know anyone who likes Spock's Beard. Transatlantic or Neal Morse.
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Cool story, bro. |
Speaking of derp...
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rogerthat
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 19:52 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
He said "personally know," I'm going to go out on a limb and say that such a distinction does not include strangers on a website.
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He ALSO said KD appeals to people who are genuinely passionate about music and such a distinction between both bands is illusory. It's incredibly presumptuous to believe SB would not appeal to people who genuinely love music just because it's not to one's taste.
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King Crimson776
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 19:54 |
Hey don't make fun of that QuestionableScum guy, English ain't his first language ok? ... I hope.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 19:55 |
rogerthat wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
He said "personally know," I'm going to go out on
a limb and say that such a distinction does not include strangers on a
website.
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He ALSO said KD appeals to people who are genuinely
passionate about music and such a distinction between both bands is
illusory. It's incredibly presumptuous to believe SB would not appeal to
people who genuinely love music just because it's not to one's taste.
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Why direct those comments to me? They don't have anything to do with me, or with what I wrote. Try addressing the person who made them.
King Crimson776 wrote:
Hey don't make fun of that QuestionableScum guy, English ain't his first language ok? ... I hope. |
I don't know what your issue is, but you're not remotely likable.
Edited by Triceratopsoil - July 12 2011 at 19:56
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rogerthat
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 19:57 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Why direct those comments to me? They don't have anything to do with me, or with what I wrote. Try addressing the person who made them.
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I responded to your remark "out on a limb...blah blah". I have already answered on his comments (er, to which you responded, I presume).
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progkidjoel
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 20:01 |
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 20:01 |
WHAT IS GOING ON I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND
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King Crimson776
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 20:02 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
I don't know what your issue is, but you're not remotely likable.
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My issue was with that guy who tried to show a correlation between "avant" metal and "real music fans". At least I'm more likable than that type of person.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 20:04 |
King Crimson776 wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
I don't know what your issue is, but you're not remotely likable.
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My issue was with that guy who tried to show a correlation between "avant" metal and "real music fans". At least I'm more likable than that type of person. |
You say that his opinion is an indication that English is not his first language, an assertion that is not only a personal attack on him, but is insulting to everybody ESL. Opinions aren't valid because people don't come from the same culture as you? What a disgusting attitude.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 20:04 |
King Crimson776 wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
I don't know what your issue is, but you're not remotely likable.
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My issue was with that guy who tried to show a correlation between "avant" metal and "real music fans". At least I'm more likable than that type of person. |
Yes, because if someone does not like your derivative faux-70's symphonic, they are clearly hipsters.
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rogerthat
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 20:05 |
Uh, what? Obviously I do know that strangers on the internet do not constitute people one knows. But since Triceratopsoil was, well, kind enough to state that specifically, I said that that was not what I had addressed. Now what is the confusion here?
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: July 12 2011 at 20:06 |
rogerthat wrote:
Uh, what? Obviously I do know that strangers on the internet do not constitute people one knows. But since Triceratopsoil was, well, kind enough to state that specifically, I said that that was not what I had addressed. Now what is the confusion here?
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The fact that you are telling me things you mean to tell QuestionableScum.
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