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    Posted: July 11 2011 at 20:14
Recently signed a document which advocates the banning of pornography which began by saying that African Americans had better family structures in the times of slavery. Quite why this statement needed to be in anti-porn document isn't clear, it seems to me to be a thin excuse for a swipe at blacks to titillate her white supporters and to get at Obama. Or perhaps black families wouldn't break up if not for pornography. Here's the quote from the document.

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA’s first African-American President."

Well that's probably true isn't it, I mean when you don't have freedom and you have to stay in the same little wooden hut and can't make any choices about anything, probably everything in your life is more structured and stable. Also yes it is true that this situation where black families break up only started after a black president was elected. So props to her for having the insight to recognise that. She'll have the black vote on smash.
 
On a sidenote, "Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families." Who wrote this? Yep, African-American families were doing just fine until slavery came along and ruined things for them.

Bachmann's greatest hits:

"And what a bizarre time we're in, when a judge will say to little children that you can't say the pledge of allegiance, but you must learn that homosexuality is normal and you should try it."

"There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design."


"I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out then under another Democrat president Jimmy Carter. And I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence."


"[Gay marriage] is probably the biggest issue that will impact our state and our nation in the last, at least, thirty years. I am not understating that."

"Normalization [of gayness] through desensitization. Very effective way to do this with a bunch of second graders is take a picture of 'The Lion King' for instance, and a teacher might say, 'Do you know that the music for this movie was written by a gay man?' The message is: 'I'm better at what I do, because I'm gay.'"
(This is probably my favourite.)

"But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States."
(That's right. According to Bachmann, slavery was ended by the founding fathers.)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 20:29
I look forward to our nation's first batsh*t insane president.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 20:36
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 20:55
The pledge did not include banning pornography, that is what you get for relying on sensationalist reporters instead of reading it yourself. [url=http://www.thefamilyleader.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/themarriagevow.final_.7.7.111.pdf]The actual quote with footnote is
Quote Humane protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy – our next generation of American children – from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and all forms of pornography and prostitution, infanticide, abortion and other types of coercion or stolen innocence. Human trafficking, child pornography and prostitution, pimping, sexual slavery and forced abortion are inherently coercive of vulnerable females. Infanticide and abortion are inherently coercive of the babies who are killed; as a matter of human rights, we reject any form of intrauterine or extrauterine child killing which is partial-birth; live-birth; post-viability; third trimester; involving fetal pain; taxpayer-subsidized; based on gender or disability or racial discrimination against the baby; without fully-informed consent; without disclosure of pregnancy care and adoption placement options; without disclosure of abortion‟s eugenic and racist history; involving a minor without parental knowledge or consent; in disregard of conscience objections of health care professionals and institutions; involving cloning or experimentation on non-consenting human subjects; involving dangerous abortifacient drugs; or for alleged necessities other than to save the life of the mother.

If they wanted to ban all porn, they would have said so: they had no problem putting anal sex in between homosexuality and group sex as one of the great ills of civilization. That reads to me more like THINK OF THE CHILDREN rhetoric that everybody knows is actually meaningless. They removed the slavery thing too, I guess they have some self-awareness.

Michele Bachmann is never going to be President. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 00:34
"Literally, if we took away the minimum wage—if conceivably it was gone—we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level." —Michele Bachmann, 1/26/05, Jobs, Energy and Community Development Committee, testifying against SF 3, a bill to raise the MN minimum wage and advocating the elimination of the minimum wage altogether..

"Many teenagers that come in should be paying the employer because of broken dishes or whatever occurs during that period of time. But you know what? After six months, that teenager is going to be a fabulous employee and is going to go on a trajectory where he's going to be making so much money, we'll be borrowing money from him." —Michele Bachmann, 1/26/05, explaining why teenagers should pay employers for the privilege of working instead of receiving minimum wage.

"If we allow businesses to be prosperous and accrue capital, they’ll be giving their employees more than they can even begin to imagine. But when we continue to tie cement blocks on businesses (like the minimum wage) and constrain them, they can actually do less than their employees."
—Michele Bachmann, 1/26/05, testifying against SF 3, a bill to raise the MN minimum wage and explaining why it actually keeps wages and benefits lower.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 00:39
The minimum wage is junk economics and does need to be done away with.  That being said, Michele Bachman shouldn't be allowed near the oval office.  That being said, neither should have the majority of Presidents from the last hundred years, or so.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 00:40
She's like the vice principal who used to be kinda hot, with a voice that gives 'nasal' a new meaning.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 00:48
@ the OP

We could search and pick controversial things (almost always out of context *nudge-nudge*) that pretty much every politician has done or said. You picking Michelle Bachmann is saying "yup, I'm not a conservative and they are insane" while trying to keep it low key. Both sides do it.

Do you work for the media, by any chance?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 00:54
As if the world needed another Sarah Palin.

And this one comes with obvious religious, kook-vile affiliations too.

Come back to the game when you drop God, or at least your bullsh*t social neo-conservatism.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 03:48
Truth: No I don't think you could find such a dense volume of garbage from most politicians as you could from Michele Bachmann. I think she's genuinely stupid and even a bit psychotic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 05:27
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 05:52
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

As if the world needed another Sarah Palin.

And this one comes with obvious religious, kook-vile affiliations too.

Come back to the game when you drop God, or at least your bullsh*t social neo-conservatism.

This. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 08:24
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I think she's genuinely stupid and even a bit psychotic.
 
 
That makes her different from Obama and W how?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 08:25
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I think she's genuinely stupid and even a bit psychotic.
 
 
That makes her different from Obama and W how?


Well, Obama isn't really stupid, but he may be psychotic, and W was just plain stupid. She just combines the best of both worlds.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 08:40
Don't blame the politician; blame the people who would vote for someone that says the nonsense that falls out of her mouth. That's the only reason she's going forward with these issues.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 09:03
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

As if the world needed another Sarah Palin.

And this one comes with obvious religious, kook-vile affiliations too.

Come back to the game when you drop God, or at least your bullsh*t social neo-conservatism.


You realize that every president we've ever had (and just about every presidential candidate) has expressed a belief in God, right? Or do you concede that most of the democrats have been lying about it to get elected?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 09:05
Obama is neither stupid nor psychotic.
 
He's turned out to be just another politician. Trying to broker deals that make the best of the situation handed him. He leans towards his team but for the most part (ironically) he's just another faceless Washington player.
 
I was hoping for more vision, courage, and leadership.
 
 
If you're going to call someone out, actually base it on reality. If you call everyone generic names, your comments are meaningless.
 
Bachman, from what I've read, is not actually stupid. She seems extremely deluded or a great liar. Where cultural delusion turns into psychosis is anyone's guess.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 09:25
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

"Literally, if we took away the minimum wage—if conceivably it was gone—we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level." —Michele Bachmann, 1/26/05, Jobs, Energy and Community Development Committee, testifying against SF 3, a bill to raise the MN minimum wage and advocating the elimination of the minimum wage altogether..

"Many teenagers that come in should be paying the employer because of broken dishes or whatever occurs during that period of time. But you know what? After six months, that teenager is going to be a fabulous employee and is going to go on a trajectory where he's going to be making so much money, we'll be borrowing money from him." —Michele Bachmann, 1/26/05, explaining why teenagers should pay employers for the privilege of working instead of receiving minimum wage.

"If we allow businesses to be prosperous and accrue capital, they’ll be giving their employees more than they can even begin to imagine. But when we continue to tie cement blocks on businesses (like the minimum wage) and constrain them, they can actually do less than their employees."
—Michele Bachmann, 1/26/05, testifying against SF 3, a bill to raise the MN minimum wage and explaining why it actually keeps wages and benefits lower.


If you're quoting this as evidence for your claim that Bachmann is stupid, I have to disagree with you. The minimum wage is a terrible idea and a huge source of unemployment. Any econ 101 course will tell you that a price floor causes a surplus (in this case of labor.) Removing it wouldn't completely wipe out unemployment (there are other factors like frictional unemployment to consider), nor would it be a good thing for our economy to have 0% unemployment, but it would reduce it considerably.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 09:28
You also learn in Econ101 that people don't care if minimum wage has negative effects, they're going to support it anyway because they just always assumed it was good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2011 at 09:32
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

You also learn in Econ101 that people don't care if minimum wage has negative effects, they're going to support it anyway because they just always assumed it was good.


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